Couldn't tell you as I don't smoke those brands.
Brand New Peterson?
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It's a beater pipe so piss on it at this point. As long as the bastard smokes ok I'll forgive the finish. I'm gonna sand paper the thing and begin its journey...
I recently heard that there’s lots better pipes than Petes for the money. Can’t remember where I saw that that like nine times.
I'm knocking on a wood. No such issues so far. Freaking stems are another issue, but smoking fine.
I sand paper all the finish out and gave it a quick wipe with water. The first bowl was actually very decent. Only about 5/8's of a bowl of Virginia flake rubbed out but it burnt down nice. The system well and p lip seemed to have done the trick. While not as dry as a good meerschaum, it was definitely dryer than a typical briar smoke.
I did have this kind of bowl coating on 2019 John Bull POY and 2020 terra cotta House pipe....it cracked after about 6 months before I even smoked the pipe...It needs to be wiped off or it will stain if it gets wet...this coating is horrible....
I agree it smelled like hell sanding it out. I can't imagine it would have tasted or smelled good smoking with it still in the bowl.
I did not send it off just wiped it of with wet clothes...Is some kind of water based coating which disolves in a water
You should have only needed the damp paper towel and sanding just as a final measure if you really wanted pristine briar. No reason to gunk up the sandpaper - just not real efficient.
But smell? Everyone has their own experience and I'm now in the remove the coating camp (and it takes next to nothing to do it) but I've never smelled a thing where the coating is concerned, even when I left it in before smoking.
My policy in bowl coatings is to smoke a bowl before deciding whether to remove. More often than not, I find the coating to be benign and just leave it be.
I bought a couple of the 2021 POY's that had that coating. First thing I did was wipe it off with a paper towel and water. Then I worked on the other problems.
If this is the worst problem you are experiencing with a new Peterson, you are very lucky.
I can't believe how often I see people discussing the use of sandpaper in this forum. Sandpaper is a last resort when it comes to pipes.
If this is the worst problem you are experiencing with a new Peterson, you are very lucky.
I can't believe how often I see people discussing the use of sandpaper in this forum. Sandpaper is a last resort when it comes to pipes.
What other problems did your pipes have? I dont think it's a problem but more of a design characteristic but a system pipe is harder to smoke then a regular pipe. As in the draft hole angle requires you to smoke and pack it differently.
Yes, but on the exterior. Sanding the chamber is just fine, though often unnecessary.
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The 200 grit I use just as a fine, gentle rub to get any last bits of coating off and truly reveal the briar isn't doing any harm at all.
Not trying to start a fight, and if one ensues I'm out of here; however, for guys who are just getting into restoring pipes:
there's never any need to use sandpaper to remove finish from a stummel. Unless the pipe is a disaster, there is never any need to have 200 grit sandpaper anywhere near a briar pipe. I'm sure lot of people have no idea how to restore a stummel without using sandpaper, but it's kind of like what Buddhists say about 'self-realization' - once you know it is possible, you're on the way.
I have about 230 Petersons and many are Systems. When I receive a new Peterson, which isn't often, I naturally compare it to what I know about older Petersons. As far as packing systems, I pack them as Charles Peterson recommended in the 1896 catalog, and it's always worked well for me.
Regarding 2021 POY issues, one has the hole in the button 1/3 of the way from the left side of the mouthpiece (as opposed to centered). The other has chips along the rim. Both are smooth finish pipes, and both had dull finish shanks that appeared to be from polishing the silver rim and getting polish on the finish - I'm not certain that that is what caused it, but it created similar results. I paid the original 'early' price for mine and I think I easily got my money's worth; however, I'd like to see better quality control and customer service. Having one of my pipes double-sold left a bad taste, and their customer service reaction left an even worse taste.
I re-did the shank finish on the 'Heritage' POY and it looks much better - I haven't yet smoked it. I was lucky, as I heard that many of the Heritage ones had bad grain and actually had fill - mine has beautiful grain and no fill. The 'Terracotta' is a fantastic smoker, but gets very hot - hotter than any Peterson I've ever smoked. The bowl is not really all that thin, so not sure why this happens; however, a friend said the same thing is true of his rusticated 2021 POY.
Most of my Petersons are pre-1970; however, I bought a new Premiere in 1986 and a new 313 Standard System in 1988, and both were great smokers and constructed well. I've never noticed the drilling problems that others have complained about, but I've seen the photos, so I believe them. Is it more than Savinellis or other production pipes? I have no idea. Peterson makes a lot of pipes, so I cut them some slack on their lower grades.
I hope the above was honest enough.
Not thinking you are, lol. Not sure why my post leads into restoring pipes, but I'll defer to reborn pipes on all things restoration, not knowing anything about it!
Only thing I'm talking about it smoothing out the interior of the bowl after using paper towels to remove the coating and 220 grit sandpaper (oops, don't know why I typed 200) isn't doing any damage whatsoever. You can't really think that's a problem?
My pipe isn't even scared of it!
