Don’t forget that Boeing was involved in the design of the Titan submersible which ended in tragic failure just a year ago. Of course, they disavow, but who believes that? It just makes too much sense that they are connected.
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Good too know it's performing well, while it's docked to the. space station and unmanned. Yup that 78 Pinto with no engine and tire rot is really top notch while it sits out in a field under some trees.
What is crazy is they launched even though they had 2 issues with the helium system, then once they were up it turned into 5 issues, all in the same systems for thrusters, sounds like a major design and manufacturing issue, one is bad, two is oops. but all 5 is another story, Can't believe they launched but when you are almost 5 yrs behind schedule you risk it.
They say that once you’ve been to outer space, you can never really go home again.
HOW many engineers told the NASA executive-politicians that the rubber seals between the propellant segments of the Challenger's outboard solid boosters would fail if launching below 40 degrees F was attempted? That the system was NOT DESIGNED to perform in cold weather?
And what did the NASA executive-politicians DO ANYWAY?
That's right, killed all aboard and caused one of the most emotionally scarring events of the latter 20th century in America.
WHY? Because there had already been several delays, and the executive-politicians were worried their image might get tarnished and their job might get the squint-eye from Washington politicians if they did not IGNORE what the engineers said.
Tell ya what... If I ever get my magic wand time machine I'm going to locate the Spanish Inquisition's top guy---along with his favorite toys---and introduce those executive-politician NASA fucks to him, one at a time.
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I live 20ish miles from Pad 39A, was at the beach and watched that launch and tragedy. We knew right away that it blew up there was no question, I rode my bike the half mile home from the beach and turned on the tv right away, i remember watching them still saying there was a "malfunction" I turned and looked out the window and the pieces were still streaming down. They set up a hanger in Patrick Air Force Base a couple miles away bring the pieces, there is a super famous picture of a helmet that washed up on the beach, my best friend was the one that found it and notified the "salvage crews" on our beach. It was a sad day, i hate to admit it but by that night there were already Challenger jokes.
The fact that a teacher was on board and the fact the crowds were already growing small to view it were the key factors to launch. Fucking joke.
I've never been in a depressed area before were had a very middle class area, NASA, and the PAFB right here, but then everything shut down, most of the NASA employees were out of work and that killed my town, ever see a Pizza Hut close down in the 80s .. well i have that's how bad it was here for a long long time. We are still celebrating Musk for his part in the latest economic revival.
Meanwhile in the we rock column space X just had a double booster landing in FL in LZ1 and LZ2 ... i just heard the double sonic boom
Update:
www.semafor.com
Boeing's Starliner spacecraft may not be able to fly astronauts back to Earth | Semafor
NASA is weighing other options to bring two astronauts back from the International Space Station, including hitching a ride on a SpaceX flight in 2025.
www.semafor.com
Hey, an extra half year in space will make no difference at all:
en.wikipedia.org
Effect of spaceflight on the human body - Wikipedia
Boeing decided a while back that hiring and promoting engineers based on emotional considerations was more important than their ability.
Given that physics and mechanical design give not a single shit about anything except ability, the rest just, well... followed.
People saw it coming and sounded the alarm soon enough to keep the ship off the rocks, but such people were, um... dealt with in ways which assured they would both cease to be a problem themselves and give others pause when it came to sounding the alarm.
Link below to a piece in the British Guardian newspaper tagged
'Worried about airline safety? Blame diversity say deranged right wingers.
Worried about airline safety? Blame diversity, say deranged rightwingers | Arwa Mahdawi - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/20/airline-safety-rightwing-blames-diversity-dei
The journalist then goes onto state in the article that DEI's being the cause of Boeings problems 'would only be believed by bigoted fools.' She then goes further to express her sadness that 'Alas, America is full of bigoted fools'.
These are her words, not mine.
She does then finish with what people are ignoring , that fact Boeing sought to cut corners, and cut costs for financial advantage. A cosy relationship with politicians and governing bodies where Boeing were allowed to self regulate their work. These are more likely to be the problems, rather than womens feelings.
'Worried about airline safety? Blame diversity say deranged right wingers.
Worried about airline safety? Blame diversity, say deranged rightwingers | Arwa Mahdawi - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/20/airline-safety-rightwing-blames-diversity-dei
The journalist then goes onto state in the article that DEI's being the cause of Boeings problems 'would only be believed by bigoted fools.' She then goes further to express her sadness that 'Alas, America is full of bigoted fools'.
These are her words, not mine.
She does then finish with what people are ignoring , that fact Boeing sought to cut corners, and cut costs for financial advantage. A cosy relationship with politicians and governing bodies where Boeing were allowed to self regulate their work. These are more likely to be the problems, rather than womens feelings.
It's clear (by now) that your mission in life is to "refute" positions by passing on the declarations of others who agree with your emotion-based conclusions, not think for yourself.
Over, and over, and over again.
No, O'Brien, you are holding up four fingers, not five, and no amount of obediently repeating the party line will change reality, as desperately as you might wish that was the case.
You are describing a meritocratic system. DEI and its Marxist underpinnings are about intersectional grievances and righting historical wrongs through demographics and other forms of identity politics. The two systems are mutually exclusive.
DEI = mediocrity
You are partly right about an attempt to correct historical wrongs, but when you break out the “Marxist” trope, and I assume you don’t mean Groucho, it’s time to break out the butterfly net. Your solution is false.
I wonder is Werner Von Brown would have assured the smooth workings on the space capsule? After all he had plenty of practice of firing the things into space and at London!
Groucho brings a smile to my face. I like you too much to argue this point. Everyone can read about the ideological underpinnings of DEI.“There is a natural aristocracy among men: talent and virtue” - Thomas Jefferson.
Airbus has its own diversity initiatives. It's own web site outlines its mission statements and initiatives to hire people from ethnic minority and underprivilidged backgrounds. Airbus also has defined targets to increase the percentage of female employees and the number of women in the boardroom.
Also, at within their European based operations and their German/Franco labour laws, Airbus has works councils, where staff and management can talk openly about planning and 'their feelings' to promote better collaboration.
Also, Airbus is largely state owned with qualifying employees given the right to purchase shares and have board representation.
European labour laws are more weighted in favour of the employee. Better holiday entitlement, statutory sick pay, maternity leave, rigidity of contract and rights in relationship to contract terms and grievances, making it harder to sack someone that isn't very good at their job.
This all sound woke, inclusive and a bit lefty, so why don't Airbuses fall out of the sky?
I have already explained this once before, and my last post outlines the real reason for Boeings problems.$$$
You do what you do, which may well involve a bit of thinking, then posting a picture you trawled the internet for of an 'ugly' and slightly masculine looking female Boeing employee, so that you and the rest of the 'school bullies' here can guffaw at, and claim as evidence for the companies problems. Failing that, post a meme of a cartoon plane with a vagina, or a transgender olympic athlete that once farted on the seat of a 737 Airmax causing cabin pressure problems.
So a pinko DEI virtue hire at a commie rag says it ain’t DEI’s fault.
Hang on while I verify that with Joy Reid.
UPDATE: Elon to the rescue. Boeing's craft will return without the astronauts.
NASA picks SpaceX to rescue astronauts marooned in space
Boeing’s spacecraft will return without people on board, the US space agency said during a Saturday news conference announcing its decision
NASA selected Elon Musk’s SpaceX to bring home the US astronauts who were forced to extend their stay at the International Space Station because of major technical issues with Boeing Co.’s capsule.
Boeing’s spacecraft will return without people on board, the US space agency said during a Saturday news conference announcing its decision.
The contingency plan means that NASA astronauts Barry “Butch” Wilmore and Sunita “Suni” Williams will hitch a ride home on SpaceX’s rival Crew Dragon capsule during a mission slated to launch in late September. That would put them back on US soil in February, when that capsule is slated to return and months later than originally planned.
nationalpost.com
NASA picks SpaceX to rescue astronauts marooned in space
Boeing’s spacecraft will return without people on board, the US space agency said during a Saturday news conference announcing its decision
NASA selected Elon Musk’s SpaceX to bring home the US astronauts who were forced to extend their stay at the International Space Station because of major technical issues with Boeing Co.’s capsule.
Boeing’s spacecraft will return without people on board, the US space agency said during a Saturday news conference announcing its decision.
The contingency plan means that NASA astronauts Barry “Butch” Wilmore and Sunita “Suni” Williams will hitch a ride home on SpaceX’s rival Crew Dragon capsule during a mission slated to launch in late September. That would put them back on US soil in February, when that capsule is slated to return and months later than originally planned.
NASA picks SpaceX to rescue astronauts marooned in space
Boeing’s spacecraft will return without people on board, the US space agency said during a Saturday news conference announcing its decision.
nationalpost.com