Boeing Being Boeing
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The first capsule Boeing had NASA review had 80 major design flaws. I love that they got to a point where they built something that was so bad. They had to completely scrap it and start over. What the hell is going on with that company promote up not out.
The actual underlying problem was a lack of redundancy in a flight critical system. Touching the air data system to provide the necessary redundancy would’ve touched many, many other systems. Touching them results in the possibility that they would have to be redesigned to comply with the latest regulatory basis, or at the very least an enormous amount of test and analysis. It was a management decision to avoid cost abetted by the FAA Northwest cert office.
I’ve worked many aircraft cert programs. If we’d ever proposed what Boeing did we’d have been laughed out of the room.
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I’m sorry.
Are we talking about Scandinavian Tobacco Group here, or Boeing?
I grew up in satellite beach, everyone either worked for NASA or was in the Air Force, we were here for all of the original launches, Mercury program, etc., i was too young but my brothers and sister all got to watch the Apollo launches from right down the road, I’ve been here for almost all of the shuttles and space x, it’s in the blood. I have two friends that I grew up with that are both directors of different divisions at NASA so I do get some pretty good free passes and launch viewing passes things like that. And I got to meet Buzz Aldrin at someone’s house even though he wouldn’t sign an autograph lol
Indeed, NASA was the result of a strong Affirmative Action/Diversity Equity and Inclusion program of its day, to wit, to increase the number of then under-represented but nonetheless highly competent Nazis. See Operation Paperclip: Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
Quoting Tom Lehrer, "Nazi, schmazi, says Werner Von Braun".
“One the rockets are, who cares where they come down? That’s not my department” says Werner von Braun.
(Say this with a really bad mock-German accent)
(Say this with a really bad mock-German accent)
I can't read this title without changing it to "Boing Boing Boing" in my mind. Does this mean I'm weird?
On the other side of the competency spectrum SpaceX successfully launched Starship and brought it back “in one piece”. Watching live there was a great cam feed of one of the fins starting to melt, the plasma was just melting the fins right off and the actual structure survived and the fins were intact enough to control the shit, move it into horizontal position to slow its decent and then flip it for the landing burn, amazing that with all the damage it still performed perfectly!
The world’s most powerful rocket and larger than the Saturn V and able to carry much more payload not to mention able to return. They were successful from launch to return on only their fourth test flight.
Exciting to watch!
The world’s most powerful rocket and larger than the Saturn V and able to carry much more payload not to mention able to return. They were successful from launch to return on only their fourth test flight.
Exciting to watch!
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Some caps of the fins melting.
The normal plasma on entry.
The plasma compromising the heat shield
And it got worse from there most of it ended up melting away . No word on the other fins.
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The normal plasma on entry.
The plasma compromising the heat shield
And it got worse from there most of it ended up melting away . No word on the other fins.
SpaceX Starship launches nail-biting Flight 4 test of the world's most powerful rocket (video, photos)
It was quite a sight...and quite fiery success for SpaceX.
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The spiral design theory, they launch vehicles and test them, if they blow up great they learn what they need to change, they spend about 90% less time in simulators and ground fires than typically are done, this allows them much more rapid design changes. They have 4 more test flights planned for this year alone.
When asked how the flight was post landing Control Flap 2 replied …
Once again ready to sacrifice a rocket to learn. Not sure if that was the cause of the flap issue but it is right by the flap.
More Boeing fail. Return to earth delayed as 4 more helium leaks are found in Starliner. I wonder if SpaceX will send a dragon crew capsule to get them home, that would be amusing, the other question is do you just release Starliner and let it try to come back on it's own, it is all automatic.
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NASA weighs potential impacts of helium leaks and more on Boeing's Starliner astronaut test flight
Starliner has plenty of helium left in its tanks to make the trip home, NASA says.
