Sounds like RYO but you can get good pipe tobacco around $20 per pound still.Those 6 dollar bags of 10 year old pencil shavings.
Sounds like RYO but you can get good pipe tobacco around $20 per pound still.Those 6 dollar bags of 10 year old pencil shavings.
True and yet i wouldn't have run that through my machine when i was Ryo.Sounds like RYO but you can get good pipe tobacco around $20 per pound still.
Good luck!from P&C
Been there. Damaged goods, missing or incomplete orders, bad customer service, etc. Some forum members have reported good results but the bad ones have been really bad. During their 2017 IPSD sale, I got double charged for an order that I never received nor was reimbursed payment.They getting bad?
Now thats not good.Been there. Damaged goods, missing or incomplete orders, bad customer service, etc. Some forum members have reported good results but the bad ones have been really bad. During their 2017 IPSD sale, I got double charged for an order that I never received nor was reimbursed payment.
Before you know it you will be eyeing a Dunhill and wondering why a white dot should add so much to the price.Nailed it !!
I was once happy and content living as #1.
I have been dwelling as the 2nd one for some time so much so my better half has been researching them.
Not sure i want to enter into the third stage -
And yes the example pipes for the higher priced ones are definitely yelling way to loud these days.
Lol - the reason for the post.
Thanks
It sorta depends on what matters to you with regard to pipes and tobaccos. At a basic price point the mechanics of most pipes is pretty much the same. Decent briar that might not have a lot in the way of grain, might have a few fills, or sandblasted to hide flaws. Stems are molded Vulcanite. There's little handwork because there's little margin in the price to allow for it. These can provide good performance from the standpoint of basic mechanics. They're tools.
Move up a bit and you get nicer looking wood, better fit and finish, more selection of materials, but not necessarily a noticeable difference in smoking properties.
Move up some more and you get higher quality, more durable materials, a hand cut and shaped stem, which can be more comfortable, or better at spreading out the smoke, some more individual style in shaping and some differences in performance, such as the engineering of the airway into the slot, that results in a silkier feel to the smoke.
Move up more and you get into more artistry in the design, impeccable fit and finish and high grade internals, polished surfaces, etc, etc.
If you are interested in vintage pipes of the finest quality in excellent condition, those will generally cost more, as they're are rarer.
If you appreciate the way pipes that are made by a particularly popular carver perform, you're going to be paying more for them.
People are motivated differently. Is a $20,000 Bo Nordh going to smoke 200 times better than a $100 dollar Savinelli, the answer obviously is no, unless you're a Nordh fanatic. But it will likely smoke somewhat better, will be less likely to impart flavors from the wood into the smoke, and will likely outlast the cheaper pipe, just not 200 times as much. That won't matter to someone who drops that kind of money on a pipe. They appreciate the beauty and perfection of Nordh's execution as well as the quality of the wood he chose and seasoned.
I own pipes from a wide variety of price points. One of my favorites, a Brebbia, cost me a whole $2 on eBay. That pipe practically smokes itself. And, I own pipes that cost several hundred times that amount that give me a wonderful smoke as well as a level of pleasure in owning a finely made smoking implement. Pipes are more than just tools to me.
Before you know it you will be eyeing a Dunhill and wondering why a white dot should add so much to the price.
Then wondering if you should scratch your itch and see what the fuss is all about
Welcome to price creep and the Law of Diminishing Returns
Thank you Sir,It's all in how you look at things. Keep in mind that to many Savinelli and Peterson are just middle grade pipes. I have Savinelli and Peterson pipes and have been disappointed with some. I have 14 MOLINA pipes, all for under $75.00 and have been happy with all of them. To some, if you want a high quality pipe you should get an artison made pipe. The main thing is if it has a good draw, you like it's appearance and you can happily afford it. Then you have the right pipe.
High-end audio is fraught with the diminishing returns you describe—it can cost an arm and a leg to extract that nth degree of musical information from an LP or CD—but, sometimes that little bit of info that reveals an echo off of the rear wall of the recording space or delicate harmonic from a guitar string makes the listening session truly magical and worth every penny, dollar, or limb. I'm not sure the same could be said for a pipe, but, maybe, when the stars are aligned.I'm a firm believer in what I call the "medium pimpin" approach to consumer goods. I usually aim for an intermediate grade item that is usually priced higher than entry-level goods, but not at the upper price tier. All other things being equal, this usually means I get the biggest bang for my buck: I get an item that performs fairly well and can even impress the uninitiated, but not put me at risk of being the object of either jealousy or ridicule for those are initiated. There are also diminishing returns the higher the price goes up. The difference between a $30 pipe and a $120 in terms of quality is noticeable. But is the $1000 artisan pipe ten times better to justify the ten times price over a $100 Peterson? Not to me, not typically. Sometimes I can get something high-end as a treat or when a bargain opens up. Sometimes I will get something cheap if it punches above its weight or I got extra money to burn.
I also find that if I'm willing to invest a little more into something, I'm more likely to attach value to it. In other words, if I'm serious about, say, learning to play a musical instrument, I look up intermediate quality instruments and go from there. I'm more likely to stick with it because I invested into it, and if I do bail out, it is easier to sell, trade, or gift these items than it would be something that is cheaply made and substandard.
Of course, price is rarely itself a guarantee of quality. There are cheap pipes that are not cheaply made. And there are very expensive ones that are not worth the price of admission. YMMV.
When it comes to audio I know exactly what you mean!High-end audio is fraught with the diminishing returns you describe—it can cost an arm and a leg to extract that nth degree of musical information from an LP or CD—but, sometimes that little bit of info that reveals an echo off of the rear wall of the recording space or delicate harmonic from a guitar string makes the listening session truly magical and worth every penny, dollar, or limb. I'm not sure the same could be said for a pipe, but, maybe, when the stars are aligned.
Shure earbuds and Sony MP3 player at cheap serves me fine. Can't imagine those $$$$ equipments.When it comes to audio I know exactly what you mean!
I remember, years ago, when I bought a 2nd hand high end, superb sounding, amplifier, most friends and family didn't notice. But one of my friends did and his first reaction when he borrowed it and we turned it on at his home was: 'shit, this is too good. I don't hope this is going to sound better, when warmed up'!...High-end audio is fraught with the diminishing returns you describe—it can cost an arm and a leg to extract that nth degree of musical information from an LP or CD—but, sometimes that little bit of info that reveals an echo off of the rear wall of the recording space or delicate harmonic from a guitar string makes the listening session truly magical and worth every penny, dollar, or limb. I'm not sure the same could be said for a pipe, but, maybe, when the stars are aligned.
That's just it.... you can't imagine. If you heard a really good set up, you wouldn't believe your ears.Shure earbuds and Sony MP3 player at cheap serves me fine. Can't imagine those $$$$ equipments.