s of now ,It seems to me I haven't had any considerable success in getting estates at affordable prices so far,nontheless what I mostly buy is those refurbished ones,and often from reputable sellers or pipe collectors, and as a rule, those folks know the value of their pipes and their job, if I have time and nerves for searching over the Ebay ,then the result might have been different but so far all was kinda pricey, not complaining though, I like the quality/price ratio on these estates and most of all how enjoyable smoking experience the grand majority of these older pipes are providing, regardless if their finish is a bit faded over the years,,