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I really feel sorry for you guys who can't taste the warmed briar aromas while smoking your pipes. Even my oldest estates still have a gentle warmed briar aroma when I smoke them. This, to me, is what separates pipe tobacco aromas from other forms of smoked tobaccos. That pipey smell. And, it is one of the reasons I am not attracted to meers.
If you can't detect that aroma, then fine. But, I have ditched more than one pipe to the realm of the drawer for not giving me a positive warmed briar aroma. A greenish taste gets banished quickly. It sort of make me nauseous.
 

monty55

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I've had a few new briar pipes that were green and tasted horrible, but most all my briars smoke about the same. They do impart a certain warm briar taste/aroma that Cosmic mentioned. I also love smoking from cobs. I love the sweet taste they impart, and they are in my price range.
I have got lucky and I have one unicorn singer. Fortunately for me it sings with my morning coffee smoke, so I get to smoke it every morning puffy

So I'm a true believer in the unicorn briar, but from my experience you have to be very lucky to find one. Furthermore, it doesn't necessarily sing with any blend. I've not encountered one of those. But it does most definitely sing with a certain particular blend that I happen to smoke every morning. I don't know what you call that... a selective unicorn? Idk, but I'm very happy that I have this one, and that I get the pleasure of smoking from it every morning.
 
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I've had a few new briar pipes that were green and tasted horrible, but most all my briars smoke about the same. They do impart a certain warm briar taste/aroma that Cosmic mentioned. I also love smoking from cobs. I love the sweet taste they impart, and they are in my price range.
I have got lucky and I have one unicorn singer. Fortunately for me it sings with my morning coffee smoke, so I get to smoke it every morning puffy

So I'm a true believer in the unicorn briar, but from my experience you have to be very lucky to find one. Furthermore, it doesn't necessarily sing with any blend. I've not encountered one of those. But it does most definitely sing with a certain particular blend that I happen to smoke every morning. I don't know what you call that... a selective unicorn? Idk, but I'm very happy that I have this one, and that I get the pleasure of smoking from it every morning.
Perhaps it sings with that specific blend because you primarily smoke that blend in the pipe. Which means the cake built up is from that blend and no ghosting from other blends. And perhaps not.
 

makhorkasmoker

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I love the scent and taste of warmed briar. It is one of the things that drew me to pipes. But I have put on hold the search for a the perfect briar pipe for me, or even a good briar pipe for me. There are just too many obstacles. One, I smoke always outside, often in ultra high humidity, and my tobacco--a simple C&D burley with a minimal PG--is going to be as moist as the air. I need the absorbency of cob or clean clay or even a hardwood to avoid wet tobacco in the bowl. The open draft of MM pipes helps with this too. Two, I need a certain kind of stem/bit shape that the briars I have tried so far just don't have. I can clench the various MM stems, no problem. I even clench clays (after I have shaped the stem to my liking with a coarse stone), but the briars I have smoked slip out of my clench, and fall, and sometimes break. And while I can replace an MM stem for next to nothing (not that I need to: those plastic stems last a really long time), with briar, it ain't cheap. Which brings to Three: cost. Briars are more expensive, and as I am a struggling writer type, I have to be frugal. Even cheap estate briar costs what several cobs, clays or hardwoods do. So when I buy a briar, I'm gambling on so many things. I'm gambling on the stem. I'm gambling on the draft. I'm gambling on the wood. There are so many things that can be wrong with a briar, and in my limited experience, something always is wrong. I wind up dropping it, banging it up, cursing it, throwing it in the drawer, and going back to my cobs, hardwoods, and clays.

But I do love warm briar, and the look of briar.
 

shanez

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away from group think that Briar is the very Best way to enjoy tobacco.
If pipe material is the only thing that makes a person enjoy tobacco it's a matter of personal bias.

Initially is one thing. Briars, meers, cobs all impart a flavor until a certain number of smokes. Once that's over with material is a matter of personal preference.

Any "unicorn" pipes I may have is a combination of phenomenal mechanics and mental imagery (personal bias).

A really good example of personal bias on my part is I have a few figural meers that the mechanics aren't great. The mechanics are good enough and I like the aesthetics enough to overlook the flaws and really enjoy both the pipe and the tobacco.
 
Initially is one thing. Briars, meers, cobs all impart a flavor until a certain number of smokes. Once that's over with material is a matter of personal preference.
I'm only responding because this is posted as if it were definitive and factual. But, I have cedar that goes back over 100 years that is still fragrant. I am not sure why the aromas would go away, unless one smokes their pipes till they are red hot over and over. Even then, I am not sure that the aromas would be driven out. But, smoked cool to the touch, as a pipe should be, there's no reason to assume that the aroma would be vanquished. Even the ashes of oak consumed in a fireplace still retains the aroma of oak. Sandalwood, when burned as incense still retains the aromas of sandalwood in the ashes. It doesn't take anything above "warm" to start to get that aroma of briar if one knows what scent to look for.
 

shanez

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I'm only responding because this is posted as if it were definitive and factual. But, I have cedar that goes back over 100 years that is still fragrant. I am not sure why the aromas would go away, unless one smokes their pipes till they are red hot over and over. Even then, I am not sure that the aromas would be driven out. But, smoked cool to the touch, as a pipe should be, there's no reason to assume that the aroma would be vanquished. Even the ashes of oak consumed in a fireplace still retains the aroma of oak. Sandalwood, when burned as incense still retains the aromas of sandalwood in the ashes. It doesn't take anything above "warm" to start to get that aroma of briar if one knows what scent to look for.
Fair enough. I can say after x number of smokes I can no longer detect the flavor I was getting when new. Additionally, based on my personal experience, the variable x seems to be determined by the pipes as individuals and not necessarily the material, i.e. I've had briars where the initial flavor became unnoticeable with fewer smokes than a cob or meer and vice versa. It also seems to be a flavor I only associate with new pipes as I don't notice it in estates (although estates can certainly have their own ghosts but that's another story).
 

monty55

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Perhaps it sings with that specific blend because you primarily smoke that blend in the pipe. Which means the cake built up is from that blend and no ghosting from other blends. And perhaps not.
Perhaps. But I did smoke several blends from it when I first purchased it, and didn't notice any real difference. And it was an estate pipe, so no telling what was smoked out of it before. And I tend to keep cake to a bare minimum if any at all. But more importantly, when I first purchased it and smoked several blends from it, I didn't notice that it sang much, until I smoked my morning blend from it. It was a noticeable improvement. Prior to that I would grab whatever pipe I felt like for my morning smoke. So all in all, I'm gonna stick with the unicorn thing, I guess.
 
When it's new... for me... I am tasting more than just the warmed briar. I am tasting the briar as it is carbonizing. I do love breaking in a new pipe. But, after it is broken in, I can still sense the warmed briar. It's not overwhelming or in your face, but I can definitely tell there is warmed briar in the air. I can sense it stronger when I walk into a room at the Briary where someone else is smoking. For some reason it is just easier to smell someone else's warm briar, but I can definitely smell my own. Like I said... it's a pipey smell.
 
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Perhaps. But I did smoke several blends from it when I first purchased it, and didn't notice any real difference. And it was an estate pipe, so no telling what was smoked out of it before. And I tend to keep cake to a bare minimum if any at all. But more importantly, when I first purchased it and smoked several blends from it, I didn't notice that it sang much, until I smoked my morning blend from it. It was a noticeable improvement. Prior to that I would grab whatever pipe I felt like for my morning smoke. So all in all, I'm gonna stick with the unicorn thing, I guess.
Nothing needs to be defined or written in stone. The only thing that matters is it works great for you.
 

monty55

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Nothing needs to be defined or written in stone. The only thing that matters is it works great for you.
Exactly. It could be just as simple as my tastebuds like this pipe with this blend. I may hand you the pipe with the same blend and your like.. what's the big deal? lol. Who knows. Like you said.. it works for me, and I ain't selling that pipe .. ever!
 

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Hi @Grangerous have you read ‘The Myth of Brand and Maker in Pipesmoking’, by Dr. Fred Hanna?

https://www.greatnorthernpipeclub.org/_files/ugd/17b259_acdce5ca70354ca7a5f64775f95ae600.pdf

Several uncoated chambers of briars pipes I’ve owned had a nice sweet nutty like flavor of the wood going on, not extreme, but subtle, and they helped to impart a sweetness to the VAs I was smoking.

I’ve been fortunate and not experienced a bad smoking pipe, I try to do my homework, when buying and so far it’s paid off.

Briar is wood, let’s face it, there are so many variables here, where it was grown, how it was harvested, cured/prepared and crafted, everything coming into play and effecting it.

I think to answer all the questions, it can be hit or miss is all at times. There is no perfect end result, but I assume, most of us will look at the higher named carvers and companies and we believe, when buying from them, the chances of good will be always greater, but of course, every once and awhile, you’ll read about the person buying that expensive pipe, that didn’t turn out as expected.
The link is a great read.
 
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monty55

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This got me to thinking some more about it...
It's possible that like everything else about this wonderful hobby, it's simply a matter of taste.

It may very well be that a particular briar pipe just taste really really good compared to the rest of the briar pipes I have, but it only taste really really good to ME.
So there's nothing magical about that pipe, but rather that particular briar wood that pipe was made from sings on MY taste buds. That's the magic.. that I got connected with the right piece of wood somehow... maybe
 
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karam

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My favourite smokes are always after a deep clean, water flush, reaming down to bare wood and letting it air dry for a day or two. However I wouldn't know whether this is because it is as clean a smoke as you can get, so the tobacco taste comes out as pure as it can be, or because the briar plays a part, or both.

As hoosier said, if it works it works and that's all that matters.
 
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