Army mounts...like/love'em
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Just found this thread whilst looking for something else. One addition to the story about the history of the "Army Mount" (I wish I could remember where I read it so I could add a link)
The design was discovered by accident when a soldier used a spent round of ammunition to repair a broken shank on his pipe. It was discovered that, as a bonus, the pipe could be broken down and put in the pocket quickly and so caught on in its own right.
The design was discovered by accident when a soldier used a spent round of ammunition to repair a broken shank on his pipe. It was discovered that, as a bonus, the pipe could be broken down and put in the pocket quickly and so caught on in its own right.
withnail has got the story right, as I have heard it. I love them! I have one Peterson 303 rustic from WWII, and another smooth finish coming in the mail. Of course, these don't have metal IN the mortise... just a metal ferrule around the shank. So is that still a military mount?
I have two army mount pipes with cork in the shank and one has metal on the outside. I heard the same story as withnail, I've heard it was common to repair a pipe with a spent round during the war.
Withnail; That's a new one on me.
It was my understanding that Peterson designed and donated them to be issued to military personnel prior to WWI. They also supplied the soldiers with tobaccos.
Here's the twist... Even earlier on than the British military smoked certain flavors of tobacco that designated a particular unit or brigade.... This way even in the dark one could tell who was who, and where they were located.
My favorite of those "old" blend was Wessex Brigade... Apple. It bit like a junkyard dog, but was full of flavor and "The War Department" loved the room note.
Stanwell's Christmas pipe have the mount also , metal on the stem & shank & a couple of nording hunting series pipes do too if this help!!
I'll have to look a little more into it as I was just relating what I had read. Unfortunately I browse so many pipe related websites that I can't remember which one I saw it on, so can't judge how reliable the info was.
I love the idea of telling friend from foe based on the smell of their pipe :
: I wonder if anyone ever asked for a transfer because they preferred another brigades blend?
The history of a round being used to form the first military mounts is actually on the Peterson website in their description of their Spigot Pipes line:
"The Peterson tradition has long been associated with the fine sterling silver or gold detail of our pipes. The Peterson Spigot is characterised by a sterling silver covering on the tapered end of the mouthpiece which compliments the sterling silver band of the pipe. The Spigot style evolved from the practice of soldiers in earlier centuries who repaired broken pipes by sliding a used cartridge case over the shank and reinserting the mouthpiece. In this unique spigot finished pipe, Peterson craftsmanship perfect the union of finest quality briar and precious metals. The silver or gold is spun to shape and then fitted to the pipe. The craftsmanship, created with only a lathe and chisel as basic tools, is the finest in the industry. Normally fitted with fishtail mouthpiece. Peterson lip is available made to order."
"The Peterson tradition has long been associated with the fine sterling silver or gold detail of our pipes. The Peterson Spigot is characterised by a sterling silver covering on the tapered end of the mouthpiece which compliments the sterling silver band of the pipe. The Spigot style evolved from the practice of soldiers in earlier centuries who repaired broken pipes by sliding a used cartridge case over the shank and reinserting the mouthpiece. In this unique spigot finished pipe, Peterson craftsmanship perfect the union of finest quality briar and precious metals. The silver or gold is spun to shape and then fitted to the pipe. The craftsmanship, created with only a lathe and chisel as basic tools, is the finest in the industry. Normally fitted with fishtail mouthpiece. Peterson lip is available made to order."
I really love them. I have two Vauen army mounts: one classic and one largo; and I have two Peterson standard: one straight, one bent.
I love silver spigot mounts! Never knew about the connection with cartridge cases, reminds me of Boswell's Shotshell pipes:
http://www.boswellpipes.com/shotshellpipegallery.html
http://www.boswellpipes.com/shotshellpipegallery.html
i have a ser jacopo bent stem rhodesian- double military
metal on both the shank & stem - much more metal on shank side than on any of the images above - no digital camera so no pic - but very heavy on the metal on the shank side
unfortunately not my best smoker some sort of design flaw collects saliva in the bend without reaching the bowl & comes up if i dont constantly use the pipe cleaner while smoking it -
smoke it from time to time nice looking at it when i do smoke it
metal on both the shank & stem - much more metal on shank side than on any of the images above - no digital camera so no pic - but very heavy on the metal on the shank side
unfortunately not my best smoker some sort of design flaw collects saliva in the bend without reaching the bowl & comes up if i dont constantly use the pipe cleaner while smoking it -
smoke it from time to time nice looking at it when i do smoke it
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