Are we Really Losing That Much With the Closures of Mac Baren and Sutliff?

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NookersTheCat

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 10, 2020
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I have a tin of Black House, I can't wait to smoke it once I've finished up a few of the Englishes in my open jar cabinet
I missed out on Black House :/ I think I have at least one crusty old partial tin of it laying around somewhere... I would have loved to have gotten a half dozen just for variety but my main indulgence is Magnum Opus with second being Bengal Slices so... between my 36 tins of the former and 18 of the latter I'm hoping to get by on that ration for as long as I shall roam this earthly plane.. 😅
 
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PipePic

Lurker
Jun 6, 2025
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I think its worse for me at this moment. I got out of tobacco in 2008. And gettin back in now... i made my first order in almost 20 years...

a tine of Skiff, first time buying it. 20 year ago, i could never find it instock.

peterson sherlock holmes

gl pease montgomery

presbyterian.
first time for all of them.
 

BingBong

Lifer
Apr 26, 2024
2,488
11,131
London UK
I think its worse for me at this moment. I got out of tobacco in 2008. And gettin back in now... i made my first order in almost 20 years...

a tine of Skiff, first time buying it. 20 year ago, i could never find it instock.

peterson sherlock holmes

gl pease montgomery

presbyterian.
first time for all of them.
I noticed that Skiff was one SG blend that hadn't flown off SP's shelves - I don't know why, I prefer it over Squadron Leader and think it's an essential in the cellar.
 

Gerald Boone

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 30, 2024
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270
The last processed perique blending tobacco I bought had a Sutliff label on it. I notice that supplier is no longer selling the blending perique; glad I bought 2 pounds. I keep watching for the blending perique to return from a different source but that hasn't happened yet.
 
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khiddy

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 21, 2024
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South Bend, Indiana
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The last processed perique blending tobacco I bought had a Sutliff label on it. I notice that supplier is no longer selling the blending perique; glad I bought 2 pounds. I keep watching for the blending perique to return from a different source but that hasn't happened yet.
C&D sells perique in bulk for blending, both in granulated and long-cut versions.
 
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stoopidbaits

Might Stick Around
Apr 20, 2025
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472
California, USA
C&D sells perique in bulk for blending, both in granulated and long-cut versions.
The granulated is OK, but possibly soaked in an alcohol maybe? And with the granulated cut it really performs incredibly different in a blend than blending perique.

I haven't seen the c&d long cut version, any idea where they sell it?
 
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khiddy

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 21, 2024
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South Bend, Indiana
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"It's worthwhile noting that, due to its length, this particular cut of the condiment leaf can be difficult to blend and shouldn't be used unless called for in specific recipes."

That's one of the more bizarre notes I've seen on a blending tobacco.
I can confirm that the C&D long-cut perique it is difficult to incorporate into a blend; it's almost shag-like and tends to stick together in clumps. I've taken to pressing blends that I put it in, just to get the flavor to distribute a bit better when I break the resulting kake apart.
 

stoopidbaits

Might Stick Around
Apr 20, 2025
71
472
California, USA
I can confirm that the C&D long-cut perique it is difficult to incorporate into a blend; it's almost shag-like and tends to stick together in clumps. I've taken to pressing blends that I put it in, just to get the flavor to distribute a bit better when I break the resulting kake apart.
Interesting. Any idea if this is the same stuff p&c used to sell as "blending perique"?
 
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khiddy

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 21, 2024
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3,070
South Bend, Indiana
blog.hallenius.org
Interesting. Any idea if this is the same stuff p&c used to sell as "blending perique"?
I don't think so, as I have both and the cuts are definitely different. The Sutliff "blending perique" that P&C used to sell is much chunkier and shorter. Plus, I believe that all of the C&D perique now comes from their 31 Farms partnership, so it's all single-origin.
 
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Pypkė

Part of the Furniture Now
Aug 3, 2024
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East of Cleveland, Ohio. USA
"It's worthwhile noting that, due to its length, this particular cut of the condiment leaf can be difficult to blend and shouldn't be used unless called for in specific recipes."

That's one of the more bizarre notes I've seen on a blending tobacco.
It sort of fits in with the "OMG don't smoke straight perique!" narrative. Bad things will happen.
 
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Gerald Boone

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 30, 2024
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Yup. I didn't buy 2lbs and I'm a sad boy.
Perique is still available it's just harder to find. I order some and it's good and no issues delivery ect; I can let you know. Please let me know if you find a good source. The last perique I got was whole leaf and well, its not as good as the perique I got that was Sutliff.
 
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