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greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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A tobacco review is a data point, and, as with any data, their value is significant with a large sample size. I find that a tobacco with a handful of reviews is perhaps less useful than one with many. When multiple reviewers seem to agree on characteristics of a blend, I find the quorum to be a reasonably reliable indicator of characteristics I might note in a tobacco.
 

greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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I copied all of the reviews for Royal Yacht (the entry that has 8 pages of reviews) and asked for a summary from ChatGPT. I think it's a fair summary:

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The document appears to be a collection of detailed reviews for the Peterson tobacco blend, "The Royal Yacht." It contains information about the product's composition, flavor profile, and packaging, as well as a series of individual user reviews with varying ratings and personal experiences. Here’s a brief summary:

Product Overview:​

  • Brand: Peterson (formerly Dunhill)
  • Blend Type: Straight Virginia
  • Key Components: Virginia tobacco, plum flavoring.
  • Strength: Strong with a robust nicotine kick.
  • Cut: Ribbon.
  • Room Note: Pleasant to tolerable.
  • Taste: Medium to full.

Notable Observations:​

  1. General Characteristics:
    • Known for its luxurious Virginia base and a unique plum flavor.
    • Considered strong with a high nicotine level.
    • Smokers note a distinctive, sometimes polarizing flavor profile.
  2. User Reviews:
    • Mixed opinions: Some appreciate its boldness and quality, while others find it overwhelming or lacking complexity.
    • Common praise includes the rich, well-crafted tobacco and unique aroma.
    • Criticisms often highlight the strength, a tendency to burn hot, and occasional inconsistency in flavor.
  3. Comparison with Older Versions:
    • Older Dunhill-branded versions are often described as superior in balance and complexity.
    • Recent iterations under Peterson maintain the essence but are sometimes seen as less refined.
Would you like a more specific analysis of any aspect?

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Tobacjoe

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For me reading reviews sometimes goes like this. The guy who buys a blend containing cavendish then posts a review about how he really really never liked cavendish and why.

But I will say the reviews for 1792 flake finally gave me the courage to try it trusting no scent of grandma was in it. Turned out I like it very much.
 
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Ahi Ka

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Feb 25, 2020
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Aotearoa (New Zealand)
The only time I look at reviews is for blends I haven’t tried. Therefore, I find it is most helpful when the reviewer is in this same position as me.

@solideogloria86 pointed me towards Trusty Tobacco Reviews, and it has become my standard. If it wasn’t for them I would never have known that all tinned Gawith Hogarth comes with menthol flavouring, that’s why I purchased the bag/bulk.
 

Pipke

Can't Leave
Aug 3, 2024
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East of Cleveland, Ohio. USA
I'm like, gee... It tastes like tobacco. 🤭

Joking aside, the detailed flavor profiles are instructive. I used to wonder how on Earth tobacco smoke could be called "creamy" or "bready." No way, right? Not until I actually experienced it. I got that impression after smoking a few bowls of GH Exmoor Mixture. The flavor was not at all like a mouth full of whipped cream, but rather the mouth feel was distinctly "creamy" smoke. I can gleen these observations from reviews, and know that the flavors and impressions are there for someone. I am very much not inclined to ape someone's review of a tobacco, and don't taste something or say something is true unless I experience it myself.

Reviews like @JimInks are like a wine tasting. They help guide you to articulate your experience, but at the same time, are not absolutely definitive. Is there a word to describe someone who is a "pipe tobacco sommelier?"
 
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The only time I look at reviews is for blends I haven’t tried. Therefore, I find it is most helpful when the reviewer is in this same position as me.

@solideogloria86 pointed me towards Trusty Tobacco Reviews, and it has become my standard. If it wasn’t for them I would never have known that all tinned Gawith Hogarth comes with menthol flavouring, that’s why I purchased the bag/bulk.
We're deeply honored that one of New Zealand's foremost scholars of Burley, Homegrown, and classic Britwood, finds value in our work.
 

Skippy B. Coyote

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 19, 2023
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St. Paul, MN
As someone who writes weekly pipe tobacco reviews I definitely think reviews can be a valuable part of anyone's pipe journey, but the value of a review varies depending on who's reading it and why.

My review process is to smoke a blend every day for a week and start writing down notes on it every time I smoke it after the first couple days, then do the full review at the end of the week. It's a valuable process for me because it helps me really get to know a blend and form a solid opinion on it, from it's smoking mechanics to the flavor, nicotine strength, whether or not others find the room note appealing or unpleasant, how the blend works with my mouth chemistry, and so on. The whole shebang is really helping me narrow down my cellar from 100+ blends to just the ones I really like the best and would like to hold onto and continue smoking.

Forming my own personal opinion on a blend is only half the value of the review though, the other half is trying to provide value to reader by imparting as much objective information as I can on the blend and inject some humor along the way. Obviously everyone is going to smell and taste things a little differently, so I try not to get into too many subtle flavor notes, but I can point out what the basic dominant flavors are; such as whether a Virginia is more bright and grassy, citrusy, leaf litter'y, or tea-like, or whether a Burley is more nutty, chocolatey, barnyard musty, and so on. Whether a dark fired blend is more barbeque pit smokey or fireplace smokey, and whether any Latakia that might be in a blend is more camp firey, incense'y, leathery, or musky. Just giving reader an easy to understand idea of what the overall flavor profile is like that hopefully they'll be able to taste too without getting too into the weeds with subtle notes.

Nicotine content can be a little subjective as well, like what I may find to be a "medium" might be someone else's "enough to tranquilize an above average sized rhinoceros", but I do try to be as objective as I can and rank everything on a scale of mild to extra strong. I can also share what my non-smoking family thought of the room note, whether the retrohale stings or is smooth and pain-free, how easy or difficult a blend is to keep lit, whether or not it needs any dry time before smoking, and other such potentially useful information to help the reader decide whether or not a blend might be for them.

I don't know whether or not folks actually find my reviews useful, but they have certainly been useful for me in figuring out what I like and don't like in pipe blends, and I do hope that if nothing else folks at least find them entertaining to read.puffy
 

MisterBadger

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 6, 2024
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As someone who writes weekly pipe tobacco reviews I definitely think reviews can be a valuable part of anyone's pipe journey, but the value of a review varies depending on who's reading it and why.

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I don't know whether or not folks actually find my reviews useful, but they have certainly been useful for me in figuring out what I like and don't like in pipe blends, and I do hope that if nothing else folks at least find them entertaining to read.puffy
I find reviews useful when they are a) recent (because blends can and do change) and b) objectively and methodically written by the likes of JimInks and Skippy B. Coyote. I know what kinds of tobacco I like, but not always what tobaccos I might also like if - for example - I suspended my prejudices against aromatic and oriental blends. Again, as a fan of VA/Per blends in general, there are nonetheless some that have too much Perique in the mix for me to enjoy; I like Burleys but can find some rather flat and a little on the harsh side. Since tobacco in the UK is expensive and you can't always buy small samples, reading a few good reviews is what I always do before vebnturing on a new blend.
 

Gerald Boone

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Nov 30, 2024
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I find I love Latakia; so I tend to buy tobacco that has a lot of latakia. If latakia is absent I tend to blend it with tobacco that has a lot of latakia so it tastes good. I like the great billows of smoke it makes as well as well as having less of a nicotine hit. I also like Founding Fathers but not as much. I believe there is a range of preference you only find as you smoke. Some hate latakia. I believe the process is very subjective. What one likes another hates so reviews may not be as helpful. I think it best to know what you personally like and buy the tobacco profile that fits your experience of being a good smoke.