Not all large ships are equipped with a competent skipper.
Are Modern Container Ships Not Fitted With Bow Thrusters?
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Ships supposed track in the Red Sea before entering the canal...
I thought the excuse of the vessel being blown across the canal sounded a bit fishy, now they are suggesting just that.
From the BBC just now......
Initial reports said the 400m-long (1,300ft), 200,000-tonne vessel ran aground in high winds and a sandstorm that affected visibility.
However, Mr Rabie [The chairman of the Suez Canal Authority] said weather conditions were "not the main reasons" for the ship's grounding.
"There may have been technical or human errors," he told reporters, without giving details. "All of these factors will become apparent in the investigation."
.....I also read they had pumped out 9,000 gallons of ballast to help with the refloat.
Regards,
Jay.
From the BBC just now......
Initial reports said the 400m-long (1,300ft), 200,000-tonne vessel ran aground in high winds and a sandstorm that affected visibility.
However, Mr Rabie [The chairman of the Suez Canal Authority] said weather conditions were "not the main reasons" for the ship's grounding.
"There may have been technical or human errors," he told reporters, without giving details. "All of these factors will become apparent in the investigation."
.....I also read they had pumped out 9,000 gallons of ballast to help with the refloat.
Regards,
Jay.
They also had 2 canal pilots as well as the captain to get it through. It was most likely not as simple as we would like to make it. What this thread will now devolve into is a political discussion too. Maybe about how the Victorians screwed up shipping, race, and gender roles?
This looks more like the canal needs to use the throughway money to upgrade navigation assistance.
This is a great example of why I have zero trust in autonomous vehicles, because non autonomous humans will intersect with them.
Oh, and why isn’t every heavy tug and dredge there? I understand logistics, but two tugs and a hoe aren’t getting it done.
BTW, two tugs and a ho is the name of my bordello.
This is a great example of why I have zero trust in autonomous vehicles, because non autonomous humans will intersect with them.
Oh, and why isn’t every heavy tug and dredge there? I understand logistics, but two tugs and a hoe aren’t getting it done.
BTW, two tugs and a ho is the name of my bordello.
Should of had a Cajun piloting that piece of?, too big, so sad it’s bad.
Yeah, I read something that mentioned the canal pilots and wondered about that. They should be experienced with sandstorms and wind shifts over the canal so had the best chance of avoiding the grounding. Well, they didn't. I think they would be far more responsible than the skipper, whose expertise is navigation at sea, and in and out of harbors. The pilots are put aboard because of this difference in knowhow, and there were two of them. Admiralty Law will live on this for decades. As Dickens said, lawyers keep trouble so trouble will keep them.
Yep, you have the right of it. However, the Captain, regardless of who is piloting, is always responsible. The Captain goes down with the ship they say. Of course a good admiralty lawyer never goes amiss in these situations. ?
At this point KY might be more appropriate...
"I feel attacked!"
So show us your black eye then Michael
Regards,
Jay.?.
So show us your black eye then Michael
Regards,
Jay.?.
Sounds like a BS explanation to me. Which would make it in perfect company with the myriad other BS explanations of things...well...throughout history.
My theory? The captain was distracted trying to keep a bowl of Molto Dolce lit. I say, search his personal effects. If you find an ashtray with about 70 or 80 partially burnt matches in it...there's your culprit. Try some MacB Golden Extra next time.
Next case, please!
IMO no wind storm did this. Sand storm? Ships have millions of dollars in navigation to keep it on course. Hell my boat has a $400 navigation and I can know where I am in pitch black nights. Something they are not telling us.
You forget that the unreliability and limitations of electronics is why human eyes on watch are required on ships, 24/7.
The oil spill up here was the result of an intoxicated captain. No amount of electronics will save an incompetent!
The oil spill up here was the result of an intoxicated captain. No amount of electronics will save an incompetent!
"You forget that the unreliability and limitations of electronics is why human eyes on watch are required on ships, 24/7."
Which reminds me, having viewed the ship from many angles it looks to me that anyone on the bridge would have a very limited view ahead or astern, there's just acres of containers to look over.
Regards,
Jay.
Which reminds me, having viewed the ship from many angles it looks to me that anyone on the bridge would have a very limited view ahead or astern, there's just acres of containers to look over.
Regards,
Jay.
Ships and boats run aground and sink everyday. Some investigations actually find the causes, some don't. Those are usually attributed to the captains. Much like pilots getting the blame for air crashes when a specific reason can't be pinpointed.
For an interesting story check out "Yogi sinking". In 2012 a brand new 60 meter, $39 million yacht sank in the Aegean Sea. A very shady story, it still hasn't and likely will never be resolved. In an unprecedented move the captain and crew (all rescued) all lawyer'd up and never talked about what really happened.
For an interesting story check out "Yogi sinking". In 2012 a brand new 60 meter, $39 million yacht sank in the Aegean Sea. A very shady story, it still hasn't and likely will never be resolved. In an unprecedented move the captain and crew (all rescued) all lawyer'd up and never talked about what really happened.
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