Are Images Downsized when Uploaded?

[fireground_piper]

So if it’s correct the forum does downsize images, is there a recommended resolution to use so they aren’t downsized, to maintain the best image quality?

It looks like PM resizes to 1024p on the long side.

Seems clear cut.

 

[woodsroad]

I don't need to ask anyone about downsizing. Just check the image size as posted here.
You do know how to check the image size, correct?

The original question was "Does PM downsize uploaded images?"

The answer is found by checking the images that have been uploaded. None are larger than 1024p on the long side.

The answer, therefore, is "Yes, they are downsized to 1024p on the long side. The short side is whatever it is, but it will be 1024p or shorter."

I uploaded an image that was 6000x3376
It got resized to 1024x576

I uploaded another image, it was 2478x2458
It got resized to 1024x1016

Question answered.

 

[PipeIT]

Yes I could of just checked, so then the rhetorical question, why all this back and forth… LOL

I always ask to double check and make sure, I don’t assume, even if my image shows, when redownloading off a site. I’ve seen mistakes before…

I forgot to bring this up, what you said here;

Again, screen size has zero to do with photography. Web sites that automatically resize images don't resize photos to screen size, that would screw up the aspect ratio of the image. They resize the long size (1024, in the case of PM) in order to save server space. The delivered image is then scaled to fit the viewer's device, while maintaining the image aspect ratio.

I would have to say at a personal and professional level, I’m not sure how, you are running into issues with this.

I have shot with digital photography also since 1991, and from that time, up till now, with all the advancements, from lower resolution in 1991, to higher resolution digital photography today, I have resized photos in this period of time, to computer resolutions without issues, and maintaining the aspect ratio.

In Photoshop and GIMP, if you take a high resolution digital camera photo, and set the resolution to a computer resolution, as an example 2560x1440, meaning 1440p 2K, and downscale it to this size in Photoshop if you leave it to maintain the aspect ratio, then your image will be downscaled properly.

Yes, there is the possibility the website won’t maintain the aspect ratio if it downscales, but it can. This was also not my original question, I only asked what resolution it downscales to, so I could resize.

 

[woodsroad]

I would have to say at a personal and professional level, I’m not sure how, you are running into issues with this.

I have no issues, thank you.

 

[PipeIT]

Actually no, this is not a specific question answered.

You mentioned;

I uploaded an image that was 6000x3376
It got resized to 1024x576

I uploaded another image, it was 2478x2458
It got resized to 1024x1016

Question answered.


Please stop saying Long! LOL It’s Width

This only gives us the Width resolution, but look at the differences of Height 576 vs 1016

Come on, you said your a Photo Guy, and you don’t get that in terms of resolution this is quite a change?

So it looks like whatever is being used only maintains the Width.

I’ll just adjust then for 1024 Width and whatever height the image scales to, I’ll leave it and upload it and see how that works.

 

[woodsroad]

Actually no, this is not a specific question answered.

You mentioned;

I uploaded an image that was 6000x3376
It got resized to 1024x576

I uploaded another image, it was 2478x2458
It got resized to 1024x1016

Question answered.


Please stop saying Long! LOL It’s Width

This only gives us the Width resolution, but look at the differences of Height 576 vs 1016

Come on, you said your a Photo Guy, and you don’t get that in terms of resolution this is quite a change?

So it looks like whatever is being used only maintains the Width.

I’ll just adjust then for 1024 Width and whatever height the image scales to, I’ll leave it and upload it and see how that works.

Have a nice day, sir.

 

[PipeIT]

Have a nice day, sir.

I hope you do realize I wasn’t giving you a hard time. And I do appreciate your time and help, things you shared.

Thanks

 

[jpberg]

I’ve been into computer tech IT since 1991. I understand IT and what we are discussing here as a professional, this is one of my areas of expertise. I am sharing facts as the standards in web design are today, these are not my personal opinions.

I guess I haven’t been explaining myself very well. Sorry I thought I was, so hopefully now I’ll explain better…

You misunderstood me before over resolutions. I am only talking about them in regards to how they are used in situations like this with images on a website, which are typical computer resolutions, and of course there are mobile resolutions too.

You are confusing photography and Web Standards, as if by your understanding Web Standards base images on Photography Standards when being applied to a website, they don’t.

Images on various devices are of course different resolutions and aspect ratios, and do you know what that means in the world of web standards? It’s called Weight, images weigh something, they take up space and bandwidth and that is why, no matter where that image originated from, it is simply scaled to a web standard, that is all. And those standards as of 2024 are still based on PC Resolutions, and that is what I meant before in regards to screen resolutions.

This is all based around the Web Industry Standards I posted a link before.

Now granted, anyone can run their website and scale images and post images and content on their sites anyway they like, but if you want a bandwidth friendly website that loads fast, you don’t put up bloat, you limit the data content size to keep it fast.

Based on Web Standards this does not have anything to do with the image and it’s intended usage, that is incorrect. Websites simply pick what they believe are the most common Web Standard Resolutions and use them, and that is going to be determined of course by the type of website being run. So if it’s a photo website, then it would be common to have several higher resolutions being used.

But a lot of this will also depend as I mentioned on a site’s storage capacity and bandwidth.

So regardless of what resolutions are being used on any device, web masters simply pick a resolution and set it in the backend, for what they believe is best suited to their website, but if they still can’t afford the bandwidth and storage they will limit the sizes.

For maintaining a little level of HD, on a website like this, that is typically 1920x1080. Above this next is 2550x1440p which is not commonly used.

I would say, if you are on a member on a photo site/forum, ask if they downscale images uploaded to their site, and then ask them what resolution do they use?

Just remember people don’t have to use the web standards when it comes to building a site, but they better be very experienced to understand Cross Platform Compatibility, as well as having deep pockets for a lot of storage space and bandwidth if they are going to let members upload 4K and 8K images on website.

As of today, they are saying 53% is mobile access, but we still build sites and run them around the PC Web Standards.

https://research.com/software/mobile-vs-desktop-usage

I hope now I’ve done better explaining myself…

Here, today, pertaining to enjoying pipes and tobacco, no one really gives a fuck.
I like you and your spirit and positive attitude.
But on this one, no one cares.

 

[PipeIT]

Here, today, pertaining to enjoying pipes and tobacco, no one really gives a fuck.
I like you and your spirit and positive attitude.
But on this one, no one cares.

I try to be helpful and share…

Thanks for liking me, spirit, and positive attitude, most appreciated.

Take care and be well @jpberg

 

[jpberg]

I try to be helpful and share…

Thanks for liking me, spirit, and positive attitude, most appreciated.

Take care and be well @jpberg

You too man. Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[PipeIT]

You too man. Happy Thanksgiving.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too! 🍽

 

[jpmcwjr]

Whoever manages the backend, @jpmcwjr could you please ask them, what size they down scale the resolution Width x Height at?

Thanks

This has been asked and answered in depth. The answer is 1024 pixels on the longer side, whether vertical, horizontal or square.

You have failed to provide a good example of blurry wrt your images here. Yes, your software resampling to size should do a better job than the PM software, but it's virtually undiscernable with well shot and focussed images.

 

[PipeIT]

Ok 1024 width, and to maintain aspect ratio, height is auto adjusted accordingly.

I will edit the images to 1024.

Thanks

 

[jpmcwjr]

Granted many (most?) images are in landscape mode, but it's not width or length. It's the longer side, so there's no confusion for images that are taller than wide.

As asked upthread, what's the native resolution of your iPad?

And a link to a "blurry" photo, please. The one example was not conclusive.

 

[jpmcwjr]

STOP!

I deleted your long self-justifying post, and will ask you answer the questions you've "overlooked".

 

[PipeIT]

I overlooked and forgot the question, I didn’t mean to overlook it.

8th generation ipad

iPad (8th generation) - Technical specifications - Apple Support

support.apple.com

 

[jpmcwjr]

Ok, your iPad's screen resolution is: "2160-by-1620-pixel resolution at 264 pixels per inch (ppi)"
The camera can produce 8 megabyte images— way more than than virtually any site will tolerate. Many on this site weigh in at 200-300 KBs.
So, software used in down-rezzing makes a difference, but when it comes to viewing on a screen at 72 or 96 ppi, it's very hard to notice. Makes a big difference in printing, but that's O/T in this discussion.

Hope this is clear.

 

[jpmcwjr]

What I object to in this thread is the length and tone of the replies to Dan, and later to me regarding use of the term, "the longer side." It's clear what that term means, and no one here gives a fusty ruck what Adobe or web designers use that's different.

If we're talking credentials, I used to be a professional photographer, and was a Beta tester for a couple of versions of Photoshop, and helped get Lightroom off the ground.

 

[PipeIT]

Hi @jpmcwjr

Please understand I only made a reply, as to the length tone, I wasn’t trying to imply, give attitude, or come across rude, condescending or otherwise, I was simply replying.

I was also giving a long reply with a lot of information because I like to share knowledge with others, and help, that is all.

And I assumed being here on the forum 4 years, the older members and you, already understood me.

I guess for as long as I’ve been here @jpmcwjr you don’t know me as well as I thought hoped, and that makes me sad.

I have never acted like any of these things towards anyone ever here on the forum, but if I seem to come across wrong towards others, being misunderstood, like this situation, I will always apologize and say sorry for any misunderstandings. It is never my intentions, nor will it ever be my intentions to come across in anyway looking disrespectful to anyone.

I hope in the future you will please remember this.

I always try to be loving and kind towards others, and I always try to be there for others. So it’s just my nature you could say, that what you witnessed is just a chatty excited individual that loves chatting/sharing. I get carried away at times, talking and chatting away, especially when I believe I am in the midst of friends, like I thought I am a friend here among the older members, one of the gang.

So sorry everyone for any misunderstanding and if my posting looked inappropriate towards you and anyone sorry...

Sorry too @woodsroad I certainly never intended to look rude towards you either…

Oh, and some of the tone like the word Long, if you look I was laughing, I was just trying to make fun is all, not be rude, just playing around.

I know at times I’ve had problems with making my wording look appropriate, and I do need to remind myself at times to watch carefully what I type, and I do make mistakes with it.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving @jpmcwjr and @woodsroad

Take care be well!

 

[jpmcwjr]

This is more than enough. Thank you and Happy Hols.