Anyone Smoke RYO Pipe Tobacco?

[TheSt0rm]

Those stems up the nicotine content. Look at 5 Brothers or Dark Birds Eye.

those look good.

and I just learned that Gowith Hoggarth sells them in bags. But they're pretty expensive... I would probably have to try a smaller amount if I want to be committed to a whole bag but seeing as theyre all about additive free tobaccos... atleast from an article I've read on a website..yeah maybe I can try them. Or the other 5 brothers.. who knows.

 

[coming to_falling too]

those look good.

and I just learned that Gowith Hoggarth sells them in bags. But they're pretty expensive... I would probably have to try a smaller amount if I want to be committed to a whole bag but seeing as theyre all about additive free tobaccos... atleast from an article I've read on a website..yeah maybe I can try them. Or the other 5 brothers.. who knows.

So yeah just buy a pouch of 5 Brothers and a couple ounces of Dark Birds Eye. Just to, you know, try.

 

[TheSt0rm]

yeah these videos seems to show pipe tobacco...

 

[TheSt0rm]

lol I smoke fags... is that appropriate? but yeah. It is literally a Stick. and I dont inhale... So anyways.. that's what it seems to be...

a stogie

a square

I dunno

but it's just, not conventional...


but it's really all about that nose warming thing..

also testing the body , with some retrohales gives it also...

 

[TheSt0rm]

How to Get the Best Cigar “Pre-Hale”​

How to Get the Best Cigar “Pre-Hale”

There are various techniques for getting more out of our cigar smoking experiences, and one such technique is known as pre-haling.

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Zen and the Art of the Pre-hale​

Zen and the Art of the Pre-hale - Mike's Cigars Blog

Pre-haling is a simple technique that anyone can use to enhance their cigar smoking experience. Even those who find retro-haling too intense an experience for their nose will find they can appreciate new sensations with this technique.

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maybe this is something like what I do but I do it differently?

Its like, I have to puff it, and I get the aromas coming off it inbetween the puffs.. and it warms the nose.. or causes a burning sensation almost as if you want to sneeze but, like I guess since Im used to it I just hold it lol... Well it's not exactly the same sensation... but I like to think of it as getting tobacco snuff by the smoke, or the burning ember or the aromas or whatever..

I think I kinda just realized maybe a good way to do it.. is to get a good pull, and in the middle of that pull, start puffing, and as you're puffing you breathe in or something. TBH I dont even know if I breathe in but somehow the smoke ends up in the nostrils and it causes a burning sensation LIKE as if you want to sneeze, but it's more like tobacco snuff by the smoke going up into the nostrils... lol

wish I knew if there was a term for this anyways, so I could look it up and refine my technique. Because as it is now it's pretty spontaneous and Im sure I look stupid trying to do it lol... 'deliberately' atleast. Which makes it harder to do because I cant seem to do it deliberately sometimes...

Also rolling technique helps..., how broken up the tobacco is maybe. How tight it's rolled, etc. how much is packed maybe, if you roll it pregnant it will also have that tendency to canoe, which I hate. And that leads to an uneven nose warming... It's hard to get both nostrils also.. it often only targets one nostril at a time and I have to switch it. Or maybe position my cigarette and keep my fingers on it...

 

[canucklehead]

How to Get the Best Cigar “Pre-Hale”​

How to Get the Best Cigar “Pre-Hale”

There are various techniques for getting more out of our cigar smoking experiences, and one such technique is known as pre-haling.

www.bnbtobacco.com

Zen and the Art of the Pre-hale​

Zen and the Art of the Pre-hale - Mike's Cigars Blog

Pre-haling is a simple technique that anyone can use to enhance their cigar smoking experience. Even those who find retro-haling too intense an experience for their nose will find they can appreciate new sensations with this technique.

mikescigars.com

maybe this is something like what I do but I do it differently?

Its like, I have to puff it, and I get the aromas coming off it inbetween the puffs.. and it warms the nose.. or causes a burning sensation almost as if you want to sneeze but, like I guess since Im used to it I just hold it lol... Well it's not exactly the same sensation... but I like to think of it as getting tobacco snuff by the smoke, or the burning ember or the aromas or whatever..

I think I kinda just realized maybe a good way to do it.. is to get a good pull, and in the middle of that pull, start puffing, and as you're puffing you breathe in or something. TBH I dont even know if I breathe in but somehow the smoke ends up in the nostrils and it causes a burning sensation LIKE as if you want to sneeze, but it's more like tobacco snuff by the smoke going up into the nostrils... lol

wish I knew if there was a term for this anyways, so I could look it up and refine my technique. Because as it is now it's pretty spontaneous and Im sure I look stupid trying to do it lol... 'deliberately' atleast. Which makes it harder to do because I cant seem to do it deliberately sometimes...

Also rolling technique helps..., how broken up the tobacco is maybe. How tight it's rolled, etc. how much is packed maybe, if you roll it pregnant it will also have that tendency to canoe, which I hate. And that leads to an uneven nose warming... It's hard to get both nostrils also.. it often only targets one nostril at a time and I have to switch it. Or maybe position my cigarette and keep my fingers on it...

Have you smoked any blends with lots of perique? If you like the black peppery sneeze inducing sting in your nostrils, it's the tobacco for you. Also, if no one has mentioned it yet, there is a whole category of pipes called "nose warmers" that you may want to look into.

 

[spicy_boiii]

During a late-night camping party, the revelers wanted cigarettes but there were none available. I had just cracked an old tin of Rattray's Bagpipers Dream. I rolled up some extra large cigs (with the help of an herb grinder), and what do you know, the cigs were amazing. I get bugged to bring around the same folks all the time now.

I've had good luck smoking more premium RYO (think certain D&R blends) in a pipe, and have had good luck rolling cigs out of even more premium pipe tobacco (most redonkisly after a couple beverages, 2020 Cringle Flake).

 

[TheSt0rm]

Have you smoked any blends with lots of perique? If you like the black peppery sneeze inducing sting in your nostrils, it's the tobacco for you. Also, if no one has mentioned it yet, there is a whole category of pipes called "nose warmers" that you may want to look into.

yeah that's why I called it nose-warming.. since it seems that maybe it's a pipe smoking term.. because there are "nose-warming" pipes. but for some reason it's not all that much talked about in cigar smoking... the closest I found maybe was prehale..

I think maybe it is easier to do with a cigarette than a fat cigar? I haven't smoked cigars in a while though to see if I can do it with a cigar. Maybe I'll have to try some again one day. Maybe it's easier to do with a thinner cigar, or when the cigar is closer to the nose...

And yeah Perique, Im pretty sure Perique will have some of the same quality. That's why I want to see if a good dark air cured wrapper can work since it seems those dark tobaccos have a really strong 'nose warming' effect... so I like to mix it together with some virginia flue cured for some lightness...

the "sneeze inducing" thing is actually a legit medicinal application of tobacco.. but I forgot the term for it. Snuff was used to induce this "sneezing" sensation, to expel mucous or whatever.

 

[TheSt0rm]

also toasting or firing (smoking) really seems to enhance that nose warming effect also. Or flue curing..

I remember with Kentucky's Best RYO cigarettes , which I didn't inhale... it was enough to just hold the cigarette in my lips at an angle pointed downwards, and allowing the smoke to rise up into the nostrils...

Kentucky's Best has toasted burley..

So i figure something like dark fired leaf would be the ultimate in that nose warming thing...

 

[TheSt0rm]

that nose warming thing seems rather important .. it seems that I wouldn't have been able to make the switch from inhalable cigarette tobacco (American Spirit) to pipe or cigar/cigar segment tobaccos... without a pipe most especially I guess, one of those nose warmers. For me it's all about the nose warming thing.. it is pretty much equal to inhaling from cigarettes, but it is more like snuff, but by the smoke.

 

[TheSt0rm]

well, so far I would consider the philtpads a success. I had gotten impatient, waiting for them to come in, and I pretty much almost messed up the pipe with the keystones? Well, then I got the philtpads and the last 3 smokes have no gurgling...

so that's pretty good.

But also, I forgot... I shouldn't smoke past the part where the flavor gets off. It seems, that may be part of the 'breaking in' myth people say, that doesn't exist in clay pipes. But it seems to be that you may still need to watch that the bowl doesnt get too hot.. and I would say. atleast for the beginning, either do not smoke past that part where the flavor changes.. or if it does... only smoke very slowly past that point. If at all...
I would say that is maybe when the bowl is done. And maybe in the next bowl.. those flavors mellow out which may allow one to empty out the bowl more easily without those flavors becoming too off... because I guess those flavors mix together with the tobacco, or something.

Well also, apart from that, I also realized maybe I shouldn't be puffing so much because I may end up blowing air into the stem by doing that, or atleast esp. if i'm not careful. So i have to learn, how to puff without blowing air into the stem... and also take long slow puff, esp. when the bowl is at the end. Only really doing the short quick puffing if I need to keep the bowl more lit but really those long slow puffs should do it, it's just that it takes more effort to keep the bowl lit doing the long slow puffs.

Anyways...If this bowl messes up I can't really get anymore till next month again.

But hopefully I keep the above in mind next time I get another one.

 

[TheSt0rm]

sorry, wrong thread lol, i meant to post the previous post in my clay pipe thread. Oh well.

 

[TheSt0rm]

yeah so I finally did learn how to sanitize the whole leaves I am getting, a Dark Air Cured wrapper leaf... but it is also sold aged. The way I learned how to clean it though allows me to enjoy it as it is even if it is unaged. This is a leaf that is sold aged and non aged.... But, there is also another type of Dark Air Cured leaf that is sold only non aged.. so maybe it does not require aging. But anyways, this one is still OK even if 'non aged'...

It's basically, a presoak on the first day for no longer than it takes before it dries without spots , which so far I've found out to be 2.5 minutes or so... Then you dry it. Also i'm talking about cuts of leaf not the whole leaf.. I work with cuts of leaf ie inbetween the veins.

So after it dries thoroughly... I learned to wet it out with cold water before splashing hot/boiling water on it. And after that you cool the leaves with cold water. The way I did it was as soon as I put hot water on it, I put cold water on it to cool it so I could take it out, and rinse the leaves in cold water.

And then dry the leaf. And that was it... it smoked well.

The only other thing now I can try is to see how long I can extend the time I keep the leaf in hot water before taking it out and rinsing with cold water.

Anyways, but this is going to take some time because I ran into another obstacle which was residues on my dishes from baking soda... or "hard water".. and what I learned was to rinse the dishes with vinegar and bentonite clay.. I know it sounds weird. But that also helps my hands ...

So yeah maybe one day I'll show a pic of one of these dark air cured leaves in a cigarette filled with pipe tobacco... maybe not.

 

[TheSt0rm]

keep in mind, i've done a Lot of experiments on these 'non aged' dark air cured leaves.. and this is what I've found to be the only way to do it, so that it dries without Spots... any other way it dried with spots. I dunno if it has something to do with osmosis or something...

the pre-soak is required, presoak+predrying..i dunno why. but it's the only way it works.

really a pre rinse, but it needs to thoroughly dry out.. Then hot water can be applied, but also, it has to be rinsed first with cold water also. That also...

So yeah omitting these steps and in same order it wont work... least for me.

 

[TheSt0rm]

and, i can see how long i can further keep the leaves in hot water.. or even cold water after that. but who knows. if i'll even get to that point.

 

[Briar Lee]

Europeans have smoked tobacco since 1492 and loved it.

My ancestors were Yankee cavalrymen and I read a lot about the Indian Wars they fought in.

A few cavalrymen chewed leaf, but most smoked a pipe.

Their diaries all praise tobacco, and the pipe. It was as essential as coffee for morale.

And they all marveled at the same phenomena. The Indians vastly preferred the soldier’s tobacco to their own and when they got some, smoked it all up immediately and begged for more.

America has made more of the cheapest and best sinful things like tobacco, beer, wine and booze than any other nation on this planet.

A bottle of Strawberry Hill is so delicious teen aged girls drink it like soda pop, or at least they did fifty years ago.

When you walk in a smoke shop with cigarettes piled to the rafters every scrap of tobacco in that store is a very tasty manufactured consumer product.

It’s all flavored and processed hybrid tobacco leaves made according to a manufacturer’s trade secret recipe.

You can try making it at home, but the manufacturers are so much better at it, it’s wise to buy it.

Anybody here try and recycle shotgun shells?

Better keep a long stick around to push out wads stuck in barrels when the quality control officer falls down on the job.

 

[TheSt0rm]

I think I found another way to warm the nose whilst smoking... you have to cover what you're smoking with your hand as if you're trying to cover it from wind... but it's guiding the smoke into the nostrils... so just keep puffing and building a cloud of smoke into the hands, and inevitably some of that smoke will warm the nostrils...

oh yeah and you have to be sort of breathing through the nostrils while you do this... I duno, you kind of get the pattern once you do this quite often I guess.

 

[TheWhale13]

Might as well smoke cigarettes with the inhaling that must be going on with this method?

I think I found another way to warm the nose whilst smoking... you have to cover what you're smoking with your hand as if you're trying to cover it from wind... but it's guiding the smoke into the nostrils... so just keep puffing and building a cloud of smoke into the hands, and inevitably some of that smoke will warm the nostrils...

oh yeah and you have to be sort of breathing through the nostrils while you do this... I duno, you kind of get the pattern once you do this quite often I guess.

 

[TheSt0rm]

well, Im smoking a pipe tobacco so it's not really inhalable. But this is as close to it I can get... and it really is up there with inhalations....

 

[TheWhale13]

well, Im smoking a pipe tobacco so it's not really inhalable. But this is as close to it I can get... and it really is up there with inhalations....

You can inhale pipe tobacco if you want?