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olkofri

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In the UK they are going to give people statutory sick pay up to 80% of their salary but I think there's some confusion as to what help the self-employed will get.
If governments want people to stay home then they've got to help them out financially.
But they don't have the funds to do that. That's the problem. Some people (not you) assume that the gov't has endless coffers and can pay for epidemy combat and control, government-provided services, and still have tons to give it to the people in need. That's just not the case. Already gov'ts have taken a big hit to their main income (taxes), so where are they gonna come up with payments for everyone?

Those of us self-employed are headed for the skid row: many of us simply do not qualify for their aid programs. Those of us who are unhappily unmarried will also receive less aid even if we do happen to miraculously qualify. What's a $1,350 one-time payment do for you when your monthly rent is $1,100? What about utilities? Business licence? Petrol? Food?

Even those who have arrantly and inveterately supported big-government are already seeing the oncoming fallout:
“The feeling is that a not indifferent political and social ‘experiment’ is being conducted in Italy, at least as a trend of the moment,” writes De Angelis, a self-described “leftist,” where democracy is exercised “as a regime of a leader called to manage the emergency, in a climate in which those who criticize the government are deemed traitors of the homeland in the face of the growing number of the dead, while propaganda by Big Brother is legitimate.”
Only when the crisis has passed will it be possible to evaluate the adequacy of the measures taken and the unprecedented “limitation of fundamental freedoms,” De Angelis laments.
 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
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I didn't realise you were in China, for some dumb reason I thought you were in the US. Probably because so many forum members are American I suppose.

I hope you find some sort of solution, surely as these are extraordinary times they'd consider relaxing the rules a little?
Whatever you do stay safe buddy.
I'm not in China, God forbid. I'm in Saskatchewan, Canada.

As of this post, we've 66 cases in the province: COVID-19: What we know about Saskatchewan's cases - https://leaderpost.com/news/saskatchewan/covid-19-sask-cases/
 
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But they don't have the funds to do that. That's the problem. Some people (not you) assume that the gov't has endless coffers and can pay for epidemy combat and control, government-provided services, and still have tons to give it to the people in need. That's just not the case. Already gov'ts have taken a big hit to their main income (taxes), so where are they gonna come up with payments for everyone?

Those of us self-employed are headed for the skid row: many of us simply do not qualify for their aid programs. Those of us who are unhappily unmarried will also receive less aid even if we do happen to miraculously qualify. What's a $1,350 one-time payment do for you when your monthly rent is $1,100? What about utilities? Business licence? Petrol? Food?

Even those who have arrantly and inveterately supported big-government are already seeing the oncoming fallout:
“The feeling is that a not indifferent political and social ‘experiment’ is being conducted in Italy, at least as a trend of the moment,” writes De Angelis, a self-described “leftist,” where democracy is exercised “as a regime of a leader called to manage the emergency, in a climate in which those who criticize the government are deemed traitors of the homeland in the face of the growing number of the dead, while propaganda by Big Brother is legitimate.”
Only when the crisis has passed will it be possible to evaluate the adequacy of the measures taken and the unprecedented “limitation of fundamental freedoms,” De Angelis laments.
They found the 500 billion pounds to bail out the banks in 08 and they can always find the cash to fund wars in far off lands so surely they can find the money to help their own citizens?
 
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Heh, funny you mention that, since some of the 'help' is being offered in the wise of loans. Banks rejoice!
Yes I'm sure the banks will somehow do well out of this, they always seem to land on their feet.
Obviously paying people to stay home can't go on forever but if they expect people to do that for the next 3-4 weeks then they have to help them.

Hopefully we'll start to see the numbers infected drop by then. I was watching The Ben Shapiro Show and he said the number to look for isn't the total dead but the daily amount and if it's rising or even stabilising.

There seems to be encouraging news on that front coming out of China but the trouble is I personally don't believe what they say. Hopefully I'm wrong and they are telling the truth as that would definitely be some good news.
The numbers of dead in the worst country affected Italy have dropped over the last two days and Germany, who seem to have done something right as their numbers of infected/dead have been low have just said that things are levelling off. Unlike China I do believe what Germany and Italy say so although it's too early to get exited it is some good news.
 
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