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smokeymo

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 1, 2020
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yep. there is relatively little fallout from nuclear fission bombs. Which is why people can start living there almost immediately.
Weapons and reactors not only use different amounts, but different grades of isotopic materials. And different elements altogether in most cases.
Which is why the comments on here are amusing. They ask people to get under desks for the same reason they do in an earthquake. To avoid falling debris and shattered windows. I'm sure they understand that being under a desk isn't going to save you if you're in the blast radius. Same as if you're at the epicenter of a 9.6 earthquake, your desk just isn't going to cut it. It is damage mitigation, not elimination.
 

timelord

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 30, 2017
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1,984
Gallifrey
I remember the hiding under the desk drills from when I was a primary school. Thing was I lived on an RAF base that was home to some of the UK's Victor nuclear bomber fleet... ...pretty sure a direct hit there and everyone would be toast.

At the time I was too young to understand the cold war but in later years dad said that during the Cuban missile crisis for every three of the nuclear bombers, one would be airborne, one was fully prepared for scramble and third could be airborne once the weapons were loaded. When they had a drill they didn't know if it was a drill or the real thing; the bombers had targets in the Soviet Union and the crews didn't expect to come back, and as dad said "even if they could there wasn't much point as there would be nothing to come back to".

Dad had a job to do, I was too young to understand, mum must have been petrified everytime he went off.
 
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lraisch

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 4, 2011
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Given the yields of the nuclear weapons deployed up until about 1958 duck and cover would’ve actually been fairly effective at reducing immediate casualties.

After that point the Soviet tactic of compensating for poor delivery accuracy with large yield devices and targeting cities (counter value) as as opposed to military targets would’ve made immediate protection of city dwellers somewhat moot.

Now almost all of the nuclear nations have extremely accurate delivery systems allowing for counter force targeting with much smaller warheads. Civil defense measures could be useful again.

Nuclear weapons design and effects have been a topic of interest to me for decades. An incredible amount of what drove decisions on both sides throughout the Cold War was driven by the rapidly changing technologies in nuclear weapons and their delivery systems.
When Putin specifically mentions targeting a remote and rural location that happens to be about 20 miles from my house, the precision of his delivery system does not really impress me.
 

renfield

Unrepentant Philomath
Oct 16, 2011
5,230
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Kansas
A direct hit would be merciful, there’s not a great chance of surviving that.

I remember being kept in from recess because fallout from Chinese above ground tests was salting the upper Midwest. The high altitude winds created a hot spot half way around the planet. Not as bad as being down wind of the Nevada Proving Grounds during the early days but bad enough the fallout footprint shows up in the cancer statistics years later.

The CONELRAD sirens and tuning to the CD station. It all seemed normal as a small kid. I hadn’t thought about those little triangles in forever.
 
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Brendan

Lifer
All good, I just know my Father in law has a Valiant AP5 (Australian made Plymouth Valiant equivalent, sort of) with the ol' typewriter transmission.
He also has a white Dodge Charger very similar to the one in ssjones prom photo, but maybe a 66' ?.
Anyway, I wouldn't say I'm a die hardcar guy, but do appreciate the classics, especially the 'Yank Tanks' as we call em down under.
 
Mar 2, 2021
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When I am 100 years old I hope I remember things too.
My experience is that you will remember melodies. I will never forget the reaction of a demented patient responding to Amazing Grace that I was playing on the fiddle in an Assisted Living Facility.

Since hearing is the last to go, people should be careful how they talk to the elderly.
 
Mar 2, 2021
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I am enoying a read about the stuggles between 23 and 37 year olds. It seems like every generation must plow through reinventing the generational divide. I find it unnecessary. I benefitted from a loving grandfather and I loved his generation and experience.