American Airfields.

[mawnansmiff]

Jpberg, I have clearly upset yourself and others on the forum and I apologise, that was never my intention. I spied a quite widely available story shown on many world news organisations throughout the world and thought there was humour to be found in it.
Clearly some folks failed to see the funny side and got a bit ratty about it.
I can assure you all if the same was said by our own leader (who makes no claims to be a genius) I would still have made the same comments here.
But yes, at the end of the day I broke forum rules and should have known better....I have apologised twice now so please let's leave it there eh?
Regards,
Jay.

 

[pappymac]

I still don't get it. What was so civil about that war?

My theory is that it's called the "Civil War" because in the early days, people would pack picnic baskets, load up their buggies and ride out to watch the battle between the "gentlemen" on both sides - much like they do for reenactments these days. At least, I think I remember reading about how they did that for at least one battle.
I was born and raised in the south and when I was in public school, the War Between the States was taught more than I presume it was in non-Southern schools. We learned for example, that while ending Slavery was one of the major factors in beginning the war, it was not the only reason for the war. The Anti-Slavery movement was just the gunpowder lit by the fuse - argument over states rights.

 

[olkofri]

I think Sable was just being jocular with the pun, Pappymac. You're correct, though: the Civil War was about more than just slavery.

 

[sablebrush52]

I think Sable was just being jocular with the pun, Pappymac. You're correct, though: the Civil War was about more than just slavery.

Yep, I was being jocular about it. And Pappymac's observation about folks packing a picnic to go watch the festivities is spot on, as is the observation that there were a number of currents flowing about that war.

 

[pappymac]

I think Sable was just being jocular with the pun,

I assumed he was but that trope (Is that the correct word?) gets used quite often and I wanted to offer my opinion as to why. It has also briefly provided posts that doesn't mention airports - even though both sides used observation balloons which were up in the air.

 

[dmcmtk]

My theory is that it's called the "Civil War" because in the early days, people would pack picnic baskets, load up their buggies and ride out to watch the battle between the "gentlemen" on both sides - much like they do for reenactments these days. At least, I think I remember reading about how they did that for at least one battle.

The First Battle of Bull Run (the name used by Union forces), also known as the First Battle of Manassas (the name used by Confederate forces).

 

[mso489]

When I was in middle school, junior high '58-59), near Chicago, teaching about the Civil War/War Between the States/The Late Unpleasantness was strongly conciliatory. Civil Rights, from the perspective of the formerly enslaved, was percolating but not yet forefront, and I think there was a well-meant effort to simply heal the rift between the North and South as regions, and also not to affront people (whites) who moved into the Chicago area from the South. My first/late wife was Southern born, and her loyalty to the region, yet her intentional efforts to see a wider picture, were head-spinning. Her students were diverse and our neighbors were, in part, minorities.

 

[bradical]

A civil war, by definition, means people of the same nation fighting against each other.
Civil: "of or relating to the state or its citizenry"
I'd argue war has little to do with civility.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Quite right. But you can have a civil Civil War, or a barbaric one. For example, it's more civil to execute your prisoners than to torture them to their death.....OK, poor example, though true.

 

[weezell]

Sorry chaps!

Don't sweat the small shit Brother! Your always good in my book Jay!Now,all others :twisted: Carry on with the happy horse shit...

 

[elbert]

What I'm learning here is that a lot of people need to brush up on their Caesar! De Bello Civili is a classic text of strategy, diplomacy, and high political theatre. (Although I preferred the De Bello Gallico myself).

 

[hugodrax]

‘‘Twas on a summers eve in my tent, the day I overcame the Nervii.

 

[pappymac]

Make pipes not war. Or something like that...

 

[mso489]

People who read history when young, and continuously in life, have a store of information for dealing with the present and planning for the future. Since we must all deal with time, knowing history is among the best tools for doing that.

 

[brian64]

People who read history when young, and continuously in life, have a store of information for dealing with the present and planning for the future. Since we must all deal with time, knowing history is among the best tools for doing that.

So true. Which is why it's so important to question the "official" historical narratives.
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past. -- Orwell

 

[mawnansmiff]

I see this thread is still breathing which surprises me somewhat.
I don't doubt for one minute that most if not not all mods (and possibly the main man himself Kevin) have viewed this thread and thought "leave it go and see how it pans out".
Only a guess but here's why.
Initially started out as purely a humorous snippet, this got folks talking but also encouraged some folks to take it personally (which in my view, for a while further enhanced the humour) but whose thoughts should quite rightly be taken into consideration. Anyone who knows me know that I occasionally post humorous articles and there is never any meanness intended to anyone....it's just for laughs.
As it worked it's way along, some folks failed to see the funny side of it (I have had PM contact with several who said the very same).
I think that political discussion can work on here just so long as it is taken with good humour on all sides and everyone accepting the frailties of the human condition.
Now political discussion where doctrines are put forward, that is a whole different kettle of fish.
Regards to you all,
Jay.

 

[pappymac]

Jay,

I've been trying to steer the conversation away from the original post and you go and bring it up again. LOL

 

[didimauw]

I have no idea what this thread is about, but I'm closing it. :nana:
Consider yourselves moderated.