A Ruger $200 Back Pocket Glock

[Sig]

Calling an LCP a Glock is an insult up Glocks (and I’m no Glock Fan).
I trust a striker fired 9mm pocket pistol made by an airboat company over a LCP.
Bill Ruger spinning in his grave for all the market driven crap that’s been put out with his name on it. As far as handguns, they should’ve stuck with what they’re good at-revos and the Mark/22:45 pistols.
I feel like this conversation has been had here before…

I keep telling myself not go get involved in fun topics on a pipe forum, but here I am again.

And for @Joe H: the Old Army is f’in awesome!!

Dang, you must have had a pretty bad LCP experience.
We have sold......I don't even care to guess how many, and they have been one of the most reliable micro 380 out there.
It always ruffles feathers but the two brands of handguns with the most "out of the box" issues are Sig Sauer and Kimber, although Kimber has been a bit better lately.
If you have an issue, and are so inclined, Ruger has good customer service and will repair or replace any faulty guns. In the industry the LCP is known as a pretty reliable choice.
Every brand has lemons.
I had a Dan Wesson Kodiak recently, it was a $2500 handgun. I sent it back to DW 2x for two different reasons. Then I sold it before a 3rd time.
Just this month we sold 2 S&W 686 revolvers that both had timing issues. Both are currently at S&W.
Anyways, an LCP wouldn't be my choice, but they are one of the most bought and carried mouse guns on the market.

 

[Sig]

Never owned a pistol aside from “The Judge” that was a hand me down. Weird ass gigantic .45/.410 revolver thing. Only ever shot it once just to make myself aware of what it felt like in case I ever had to shoot it for some reason.

Never really had a need for pistols. Long guns are all I ever use, purely for harvesting food.

I see so many folks post pistols. Is the allure just shooting as hobby? Or is the lower 48 really gotten so bad you have ti be ready to shoot people?

I don't know many Alaskans who don't carry a handgun in the bush. If I'm there, I have my glock 20 on me at all times. Long guns are great defense, but sometimes you may need a handgun to get to your long gun.....in my experience.
Bear attacks are up all over the country. And dang moose can surprise you with their attitude. Ive had them B-line right at me from 50+ yards away. They are much more terrifying than bears......usually.

 

[Sig]

Nobody ever complains more about the dad blasted oppressive gubbermint than me, but my kids laugh when I tell them I’m not only older than Glocks I’m older than concealed carry.

There wudn’t none of that there concealed carry allowed when I was a kid.

Only thugs and bad men concealed their pistol guns.

My first love, Pretty Miss Norma Jean

Until about twenty years ago every handgun transfer in Missouri required the local sheriff’s approval and a five dollar permit fee AND to carry concealed the sheriff had to deputize you.

Plus if there’d been such a thing as Glocks my pious, churchgoing, God fearing parents would have not allowed one in the house any more than they would a bottle of whiskey or six pack of beer.

I’m older than one shot plastic bottles of Fireball candy flavored imitation whiskey and 30 packs of light beer, too.


I’ve not shot the Taurus G2 my wife had me buy in Collins because rural decay has made all the little Humansvilles look like war zones from a dystopian Escape from New York future world type movie.

Now I’ll have to try out my LC9 S when I burn through a few boxes of nines so cheap not even Elmer Keith would have stooped over to pick up the brass.


My next Glock type pistol will be a full sized service model like all the cops and soldiers use.

One with lasers and flashlights and such hung all over it.

But all those old ballads I learned long ago were all against pistol guns, you know?

Wow, even our overlords in NY have allowed CC.....well....nearly forever.
Everyone says it's near impossible to own or carry a CC in NYS, but it has always been pretty easy in most of the state. NYC and a few counties made it difficult to carry, but after the Bruen decision it's easier in those counties. It's still a PITA, but no longer impossible.
Where I live in WNY it's always been easy enough. Handguns have always needed to be registered....which is another story....but CC isn't difficult.
I got my permit in 1992 when I was 21 years old. It cost $25 for a "safety" course, then $10 for the lifetime CC permit.

 

[Sig]

I do enjoy the nice gear on display here. I always wanted a black powder revolver as a kid (back in the ‘70s) but never got one. A couple of my buddies got the new (in those days) Ruger Army black powder pistol in stainless steel. It was a really fun gun to shoot. Hell, it was fun to load! I mean, we were bringing Crisco from the kitchen to the range. But alas, time marches on and I’m no longer in the gun buying stage of my life, so it’s nice to vicariously enjoy yours!

Back in the day I did a lot of Cowboy Action and BP competition. I lost interest when dressing like a cowboy became more important than shooting.

 

[Sig]

I have a Phoenix HP22 for a pocket pistol, should I carry one.

I wouldn't fool with a .380, it's fine if that's what you want. I'd carry a small 9mm if I wanted something like that.

The real riddle is whether or not these post are pro or anti gun ownership.

It may just be that our lawyer likes to carry guns, but he'd really rather that other citizens did not.

Time to find a new lawyer.

 

[Sig]

No concealed carry laws in Kentucky.

Yes sir.
I believe there are now 30 states with permitless carry. I'm not sure if NC has passed it yet.

 

[ClinchKnot]

My LCP had a jamming issue, so I sold it.

Don’t know why anyone would be concerned about sites on a pocket pistol. For up close situations it is just a “point and pop” operation while you move.

 

[Briar Lee]

My LCP had a jamming issue, so I sold it.

Don’t know why anyone would be concerned about sites on a pocket pistol. For up close situations it is just a “point and pop” operation while you move.

Sights are to see how far you can roll a tin can with your pocket pistol.

 

[Gerald Boone]

My favorite carry pistol is the Ruger LCP but I’ve never liked several things about it. First, it has no manual safety. If I loose control of it for a split second,,,that’s very bad. And the sights suck. I know it’s a defensive pistol but I like good sights. And, the 380 is the minimum defensive round, and you can’t buy cheap NATO 9 to go shoot up the range with. And the LCP has a bad trigger pull, it’s not a striker fired Glock.

I didn’t know it, but Ruger made a 9mm LCP that is a Glock with a safety and made in factories in the United States of America by the heirs of Bill Ruger.

It was called the LC9 S

Good white dot adjustable sights

Flat as they get 7 round single stack mag

Manual safety on LC9 S

Dongle on trigger

Good Glock striker fired trigger pull

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This as new 2016 date example was only $200 cash out the door at my favorite gun shop.

Anybody interested in an LCP .380?.

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You can buy 9, 10 and even extended magazines for these, but why?


If 8 rounds of 9mm doesn’t solve the problem it’s likely all over anyway.

We are living in a golden age of cheap plastic pocket nine pistols.

Ruger is one of those dependable, reliable brands. I have the legendary Ruger 10/22 that is rock solid. I also own two Glocks which are solid as well. I paid over $400 a piece for the Glocks so $200 is a much better price. That said, I like my Glocks.

 

[anantaandroscoggin]

There are some guns which have jamming problems until you manage to finish the "Breaking In" and wearing-in process, and some folks have less patience for achieving that status than others. Also, some models just never seem to get beyond the Jam-a-Matic phase, unfortunately.

My only .380 is the Hi-Point, bought when some fool tried to sell me a Glock.

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

I do enjoy the nice gear on display here. I always wanted a black powder revolver as a kid (back in the ‘70s) but never got one. A couple of my buddies got the new (in those days) Ruger Army black powder pistol in stainless steel. It was a really fun gun to shoot. Hell, it was fun to load! I mean, we were bringing Crisco from the kitchen to the range. But alas, time marches on and I’m no longer in the gun buying stage of my life, so it’s nice to vicariously enjoy yours!

My buddy got a Ruger Old Army when we were in high school, late ‘70’s early ‘80’s. We had fun with it at the gravel pit making smoke. I remember the little tub of Crisco.

 

[Mez]

The LCP II has a much improved trigger.

 

[alaskanpiper]

I don't know many Alaskans who don't carry a handgun in the bush. If I'm there, I have my glock 20 on me at all times. Long guns are great defense, but sometimes you may need a handgun to get to your long gun.....in my experience.
Bear attacks are up all over the country. And dang moose can surprise you with their attitude. Ive had them B-line right at me from 50+ yards away. They are much more terrifying than bears......usually.

Ive had to use my long gun twice with bears and been ready to countless times with moose.

I never go into the bush without a firearm of some kind. Totally understand why some people would prefer the pistol, but usually when I’m in the bush the rifle is whats already in my hand. To each their own I suppose

 

[ClinchKnot]

Ive had to use my long gun twice with bears and been ready to countless times with moose.

I never go into the bush without a firearm of some kind. Totally understand why some people would prefer the pistol, but usually when I’m in the bush the rifle is whats already in my hand. To each their own I suppose

I don’t live in Alaska but worked up there and had a few encounters with brown bear and moose.

They are bigger and faster in person than they appear to be on television.

 

[Pypkė]

The LCP II has a much improved trigger.

I opted for the Ruger Security 380 for this reason, and the 15-round mags.

 

[alaskanpiper]

I don’t live in Alaska but worked up there and had a few encounters with brown bear and moose.

They are bigger and faster in person than they appear to be on television.

Yes, especially bears. They can sprint at about 35mph. That gives you three seconds or so from 50 yards.

Tourists have a very unrealistic interpretation of what a safe distance looks like and often get way too close. IMO if you’re within 100 yards you are not safe and should be holding on them and ready to fire just in case.

 

[brian64]

Yes, especially bears. They can sprint at about 35mph. That gives you three seconds or so from 50 yards.

Tourists have a very unrealistic interpretation of what a safe distance looks like and often get way too close. IMO if you’re within 100 yards you are not safe and should be holding on them and ready to fire just in case.

The most important thing is to not be alone...because then you don't have to outrun the bear...you only have to outrun the other person.

 

[Sig]

Ive had to use my long gun twice with bears and been ready to countless times with moose.

I never go into the bush without a firearm of some kind. Totally understand why some people would prefer the pistol, but usually when I’m in the bush the rifle is whats already in my hand. To each their own I suppose

I ALWAYS have my 45-70 very near. But having a handgun on my side or in a chest holster when doing things where a long gun isn't feasible, is priceless....and I'm very lucky I had it....several times.
Just a bit of background....very short.
In the mid 1990s I did my dissertation for grad school in a cabin owned by the state of Alaska. It was about 60 miles North of the arctic circle, in the Southern Brooks Range....between the Baird Mts and the Endicott Mts.
The cabin is 80 miles from a road, and over 100 from a hospital.
I spent 24 months there working with Yukon wolf/coyote hybrids mostly.
While just living....eating, gathering wood, doing dishes, cleaning up.....it's not possible to get to a rifle when an inland grizzly can be on you in under 2 seconds from the Alder. These bears have no fear of humans, most have never even smelled one.
Nosey bears are one thing, but angry bears are different. At points we had up to six big bears circling our camp and staying within 1/4 mile for weeks. They LOVED our smells.
We had a revolving assortment of professional guides and Alaska experts staying with us. We were setting raw meat traps all day in heavy bear, wolf and wolverine territory. Every one of them had a 44mag, 454 Casull or a 10mm on them at all times. Even going to the bathroom and while sleeping. Then I worked for the state of Alaska for a few years and did 19 necropsies on brown bears that were involved in attacks on humans. In 15 of those a handgun was used.
In 2009 my wife and I bought that cabin from the state. We used to spend a couple months there a year, but less recently. I'm going this summer for 2 weeks, then we are both going this October to do some hunting.

 

[Sig]

I don’t live in Alaska but worked up there and had a few encounters with brown bear and moose.

They are bigger and faster in person than they appear to be on television.

Moose are far more dangerous than bears statistically. Bears can be nosey, but rarely angry. Moose are ALWAYS angry.

 

[brian64]

Then I worked for the state of Alaska for a few years and did 19 necropsies on brown bears that were involved in attacks on humans. In 15 of those a handgun was used.

Do you know how many of those 19 attacks resulted in serious injury or death of the human? Did all 15 of the handgunners survive?