I think I agree with @alaskanpiper that it is difficult to have a serious discussion about the question at hand when the discussion to often is a reinforcement of a particular line of thought based on repetition of a particular view point rather that an honest discussion of observable facts. The line of reasoning reminds me of a Sunday school debate.
Briar Grain - What is it? What role if any does it play in terms of smoking quality? Artistically, what makes beautiful briar grain? All of these questions can be addressed without arguing the merits of a Marxman Pipe.
There are many Marxman pipe threads. How many do we need? And I enjoy Marxman pipes, but perhaps we should keep Marxman pipe discussions in those threads when possible.
Beauty of grain is, of course, in they eye of the beholder in some sense, but when I think of beautiful grain, like most pipe smokers, I think of straight grain or birdseye grain.It would be a high dollar Italian pipe today to equal the beauty of grain and careful finish of a five dollar Weber Golden Walnut.
Well, I have driven a Ferrari, and let me tell you something: those Hondas kick Ferrari ass.Well, I've never driven a Ferrari, but I can't see how it could be that much nicer than a Honda, right? I mean, Hondas are niiiice.
Jean LaCroix pipes are no joke man. I have a Drucquer & Sons Carmel 1032 he made, and it is a dead ringer clone for a 1968 Dunhill EK I also own. It was 1/10 of the price (although I did have to restore it). I guess Jean worked for Dunhill for a spell, so not hard to believe, but they smoke equally well and the LaCroix damn near matches the Dunhill aesthetically.Well, I have driven a Ferrari, and let me tell you something: those Hondas kick Ferrari ass.
But seriously, I own several Dunhills, a couple of Castellos, ditto Ser Jacopos, the usual Savs and Petes, an Ingo Garbe, Stanwells, a Weber or two, and several Edwards--the latter marked ALGERIAN. I'll submit to being lynched if I can tell the difference in smoking qualities of any of them. If I absolutely had to pick a pipe of mine that smoked noticeably better than any others, I would reluctantly choose a Jean Lacroix Diamante billiard, of all things. Close second would be one of those Wilke house branded pipes that you might have plucked off the wall display in their old store on Madison Ave in NYC. Sold for 15 bucks or something. Wonder if they were ALGERIAN?!!
Each to his own. Amusing thread, though. I like it.
Well, I have driven a Ferrari, and let me tell you something: those Hondas kick Ferrari ass.
But seriously, I own several Dunhills, a couple of Castellos, ditto Ser Jacopos, the usual Savs and Petes, an Ingo Garbe, Stanwells, a Weber or two, and several Edwards--the latter marked ALGERIAN. I'll submit to being lynched if I can tell the difference in smoking qualities of any of them. If I absolutely had to pick a pipe of mine that smoked noticeably better than any others, I would reluctantly choose a Jean Lacroix Diamante billiard, of all things. Close second would be one of those Wilke house branded pipes that you might have plucked off the wall display in their old store on Madison Ave in NYC. Sold for 15 bucks or something. Wonder if they were ALGERIAN?!!
Each to his own. Amusing thread, though. I like it.
If the only pipes left were Dr Grabows, I'd smoke happily.This middle fifties Dr Grabow Royal Duke is full of 1792 right now and this pipe cannot be exceeded for a good smoke. I just want to eat this pipe, it’s so good.
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I bought it new, found behind a cabinet in the Lead Mine Store about 1990 where it was mislaid over thirty years. The price tag was $9.95, and what I was charged.
When it was new, it sat atop the Dr Grabow display with the little dollar pipes on the bottom. It must have fallen off.
I can see hand tool marks inside the hand rustication. Every atom of this pipe was first class.
But if you smoked it you might not like such a robust, strong, rich and hearty smoker.
Mild, sweet, and light it ain’t.
We all would. Pipe > No Pipe. That’s like the first thing I learned.If the only pipes left were Dr Grabows, I'd smoke happily.
Oh I know some guys that would quit. LolWe all would. Pipe > No Pipe. That’s like the first thing I learned.
Fascinating discussion. I can’t make a direct comparison, at least that I’m aware of, but the biggest difference in taste of the pipes that I have are between English and Italian made pipes. I don’t know why but it’s distinctive and consistent.
This comment is awesome. I have had so many people insist they can't tell or taste a difference and that means people who can are delusional. Love having someone say something this true. On the original subject the difference I notice in pipes is rarely dramatic. My Rattray always tastes sweeter and more clear shockingly. My Brebbia is just mellower to the point that already blander blends get too mellow. Wouldn't say any is better or worse just not the same.I will say I don't have the same experience, but given all of the things we know change our food and drink, that it would be counterintuitive to think that the material of our pipes doesn't have at least a detectable effect on flavor. In my own experience, (and I'm not a super taster), I can taste the hardwood charring in a new MM cob, and I can taste the warm corn flavor in my old broken in cobs. I can taste when my cast iron skillet needs to be re-seasoned, or when I cook on a propane grill instead of coal. So, even if it's not my experience, I think it's plausible enough not to poop on the idea. On the other hand, there are all sorts of variables at work...and it wouldn't do to let the ol' post hoc ergo us right in the propter hoc, ya know?
If you're buffing it off after smoking, that's coming from an external source. Likely oil from your hands.I’ll be damned.
Here is my champion Marxman to color.
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Four smokes
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Buffed with 4/0 steel wool
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Half an bowl and it’s recoloring.
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There is a differnce.
Only the softest and spongiest briar will color that quickly.
And this pipe is beyond a dynamite good smoker. It refuses to get hot, too. It smokes so dry I couldn’t make up a lie about it.
Some briar is as porous, or more so, than meerschaum.
If you're buffing it off after smoking, that's coming from an external source. Likely oil from your hands.
Frank bringin the heat with the vocab love it! Also where can i get that burger for $10?Nevermind. My desire to post further responses here is a direct result of my own idiosyncratic irritation relating to the haphazard slinging of likely refutable conjecture and speculation rather than a desire to engage in what I suppose could possibly, maybe, one day, if the stars aligned, end up as an informative or erudite discussion on pipes or briar. Bowing out.
We all have the right to believe what we would like and smoke what we please anyway. Wrong or right, if the combination of those two things leads to a more pleasant experience for the person in possession of them, then that’s a win.
Tommy’s Burger Stop in Anchorage. Best burgers in town. Gwin’s ain’t bad at all. Like you said though, being beat down from chasing fish definitely has an impact, hahaha.Frank bringin the heat with the vocab love it! Also where can i get that burger for $10?
Until proven wrong I’m still gonna say best burger driving distance from us is Gwin’s lodge, Sterling hwy. A few days of backpacking or fishing prior may or may not affect reviews
Should have shown the same side of the pipe...I did that one, to see the grain. I usually don’t.
It came the typical Marxman reddish brown.
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Algerian briar is powder soft. I avoid using even 4/0 steel wool to preserve lettering.
I cleaned it using hot water and it was varnished or shellacked (extremely rare for a Marxman) and the wood turned almost white. No grain showed whatsoever.
So I put a drop or two of grapeseed oil on a section of paper towel.
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And two smokes later
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Four
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Five
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Here’s a close up of little black spots where something was oozing out.
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That is an extreme example of how fast a Marxman colors and I think I know why.
That’s a $15 “Big Boy” size Super Briar (just barely). It was an expensive pipe.
It was butter soft, so soft they quit trying to polish it and put a coat of something on it.
The coloring is because they are so porous.
What the color is, might be tannins, oil used to cure it, or tars from the smoke.
But they color to an oxblood reddish brown.