Apparently, every thing that happens in America can be simplified by talking about it through the shallow lens of pop political theory. No wonder so many people take a dim view of people with advanced degrees.
$800 De Minimis Import Tax Exemption Set To End Friday
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Its intersting, I know that almost no one supports this nonsense. Its amazing from a distance how passive Americans are...depsite all the cowboy retoric.
In the EU people would be throwing tires in the street, lighting fires and blockading almost all commerce.
In the US people just compalin and go hope someone will do something about it. In the end US politicians know they can do whatever they feel like and no one will do anything about it.
They dont need to answer to anyone.
In the EU people would be throwing tires in the street, lighting fires and blockading almost all commerce.
In the US people just compalin and go hope someone will do something about it. In the end US politicians know they can do whatever they feel like and no one will do anything about it.
They dont need to answer to anyone.
Not everyone. I have held a doctorate since 2003. By the 2020s I ceased using the title when it became apparent that so many colleges had become diploma mills. The level of intellectual stamina amongst my peers had dwindled to where I was embarrassed. So much intellectual nonsense spews out of the mouths of "educated" people that the result is that it has elevated the nonsense that comes from people without "degrees". That is NOT to imply that people without degrees spew out nonsense as a whole. Rather, nonsense now seems to spew disproportionately out of the mouths of people with advanced degrees. I could happily provide examples, but this is not the forum for it. Nor, do I care to disparage people who have chosen not to get a degree. Intelligence does not favor any group based on the sheep skin framed on their wall. Advanced degrees historically allowed one time to hone their intellectual skills, develop the necessary historical reading to better understand the subject at hand, and provide a foundation for thinking deeper about a subject in the context of that subject's genre of knowledge. To the extent that it allowed one to think more sharply about subjects non related to the degree, that has always been up for debate - although if one's education was well rounded one tended to be a better global thinker.
Sadly, this is less the case today. Colleges fail to provide a well rounded education, focus too narrowly on understanding subjects by failing to provide a rich and thick historical understanding of what has come before, and the bar - lets be honest - has been so so lowered. As a professor, this has been my experience. The non college educated person has been vilified - unfairly. Now, it's sauce for the goose - and educated elites are being judged in return. If it is unfair, well, as I said, sauce for the goose.
They largely seem loath to enforce it.
Counselor, perhaps you could point me to the section in the Constitution that enumerates Presidential Immunity.
I agree. But you can still call me Master Heavy
The same one that details how Washington threw a silver dollar over the Potomac.
The Romans had their pagan Gods, and we have our Heroic Presidents.
Traditionally lawyers have a political science degree.
Less now than formerly most lawyers were like Abraham Lincoln and were masters of the King James Bible.
Not only does the President have implicit immunity for official acts every member of Congress does as well and all the members of the Supreme Court, and here is the citation —-
It’s in the case law. Its lawyer stuff we go to law school for, you know?
It has to do with our traditions of representative democracy in a Republic with division of powers and most importantly of all—-mandatory elections every even number year until trumpets sound in the East.
Why, have you noticed how quickly the free press settles lawsuits filed by our current chief executive by paying millions all earmarked for his future Presidential Library?
There will surely be found, the end of this current political drama.
It is of paramount, utmost, essential importance this President die of old age in his bed at his home, and not in prison or in any way harmed.
The students of a century from now, are carefully watching us lawyers handle him.
Sing one, Tommy Cash and Marty Stuart
Six White Horses
(Move up a notch, Polk, Buchanan, Grant and Harding.
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One accurate rationale for removing the de minimis exemption (and little or no paperwork by the sender) was its abuse by the cartels and some Chinese shippers to smuggle small batches of fentanyl undetected into America that killed tens of thousands of young people here. I say this from firsthand observation in my line of work. We will all just have to wait and see what SCOTUS says, I guess. But canceling that $800 tariff exemption is a separate issue from the other trade tariffs.
You know what? They’ll find other ways to smuggle it in, if they don’t have them already. All this does is hurt regular consumers.
The previous admistration began measured, traditional and lawful actions towards reform of the De Minimus exemption a year ago.
FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Announces New Actions to Protect American Consumers, Workers, and Businesses by Cracking Down on De Minimis Shipments with Unsafe, Unfairly Traded Products | The White House - https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/09/13/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-new-actions-to-protect-american-consumers-workers-and-businesses-by-cracking-down-on-de-minimis-shipments-with-unsafe-unfairly-traded-products/
They even warned the nation of the dangers of TikTok and took action !!!
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President Joe Biden signed a bill Wednesday that will force TikTok's Chinese parent company to divest from its U.S. operations or face a nationwide ban.
Why it matters: The move potentially sets up a protracted legal fight over the fate of the popular social media app, as TikTok has vowed not to go down without a fight.
What's the concern about TikTok?
The bill signed into law Wednesday has been a long time coming, after the Biden administration warned last year that TikTok could face a ban if its parent company, ByteDance, didn't sell its stake in the U.S. version of the app.- TikTok's critics have long argued the app could put U.S. customer data at risk because Chinese law requires China's companies to share information with the government.
- TikTok has maintained that it operates independently and protects U.S. data through an alliance with Oracle, which firewalls the data from overseas access.
I learned this one when I was about six years old—-it’s a stone cold classic.
Your Time’s Comin
Gee, how’s outlawing Temu and TicTok going to play to the folks next year in November?.
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@Mike N That cartel stuff is a bunch of noise. Packages are not going to be checked any more than they are in the EU. Its not possible
If illegal drugs are coming in they will continue to do so.
Im not saying it isnt happening. Im saying that changing the postal regs will do zero to stop it. To make the stuff costs next to nothing and they will just take a slight increase in losses.
Instead of doing something smart to stop the problem its like..."Lets just do something". It doesnt matter if its stupid.
Its just using the loss of life to bully. Its an excuse to call it an emergency so that powers can be abused.
If illegal drugs are coming in they will continue to do so.
Im not saying it isnt happening. Im saying that changing the postal regs will do zero to stop it. To make the stuff costs next to nothing and they will just take a slight increase in losses.
Instead of doing something smart to stop the problem its like..."Lets just do something". It doesnt matter if its stupid.
Its just using the loss of life to bully. Its an excuse to call it an emergency so that powers can be abused.
While I agree with almost everything you say, and I’m pissed about the de minimus elimination, I’m intrigued that you know something about stopping the flow of illegal drugs. Short of legalizing the posession and distribution of all drugs (thus eliminating the “illegal” part of it), what smart ideas are we overlooking? I, too have first-hand knowledge of Fentanyl being mailed from China. That problem is real.
Geopolitical trade debate aside
I ordered three pipes from Italy on 8/25 they landed in the USA yesterday. DHL immediately put a hold on the delivery and texted me a bill for the duties. They were listed on the duty/vat invoice as hand made briar pipes and the listed value was 172,26 each. My total duties owed were $48. $17 of that was DHL fee for processing. Process was easy and the duties reasonable. Shipment was immediately released and delivery date scheduled. Since the service fee was 30%+/- I will be curious as to what other carriers service charges are.
I ordered three pipes from Italy on 8/25 they landed in the USA yesterday. DHL immediately put a hold on the delivery and texted me a bill for the duties. They were listed on the duty/vat invoice as hand made briar pipes and the listed value was 172,26 each. My total duties owed were $48. $17 of that was DHL fee for processing. Process was easy and the duties reasonable. Shipment was immediately released and delivery date scheduled. Since the service fee was 30%+/- I will be curious as to what other carriers service charges are.
The Chinese De Minimus exemption has been suspended by executive order since February.
Lookie at my $65 (total) pipe wending its way through two customs inspections, one in China and one in the USA.
Uncle Sam collected about $15 tax from somebody.
I kinder sorta think I mebbee paid that tariff my own self, you know?
That is going to Lincoln Nebraska where an American will actually mail it to me, the last mile.
Lincoln Airport (Nebraska) - Wikipedia
The last one I got had two tiny brass screens and two stainless steel cones in the box that I tossed away lest my children find them and lead them into corruption.
I keep on warning them not to eat Tide pods and huff paint thinner, too.
Why risk illegal drugs when the largest legal cannabis operation in Missouri, if not the world, is about five miles East of Bug Tussle, you know?
Someday Humansville might ship flower buds to China, you never know.
Flora Farms has an entire new electric substation ready when and if Congress gives the go ahead.
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Couriers will always charge duties, because they make money on them. So, they wouldn't be affected by this exemption removal, methinks.
It's only the post that will have issues.
Frankly, I don't see the big fuss over this: just use a courier service and you can keep on buying as usual. Unless they don't do tobacco shipments.
I was under the impression here that you'd have to at least sacrifice some organs to make such a purchase now.
To your question, here is the updated schedule for UPS:
That looks reasonable. It also confirms my thinking that not only is the US trying to close a loophole, but to make money whilst they're at it. Same thing the CB$A does here, where they charge you import tax, plus processing fee, plus tax on the processing fee! Nice
Well, my contraband snus arrived via USPS today. Glad the Swedes finally got wise to the UPS/DHL brokerage scam and started shipping by regular expedited post.
If they start charging tariffs or excise on these things, they're still better and cheaper than what's on sale at the gas stations.
It's enough to make you cross-eyed keeping up with all this tariff bingo. I wonder if Goodwill is listed on the NASDAQ.
If they start charging tariffs or excise on these things, they're still better and cheaper than what's on sale at the gas stations.
It's enough to make you cross-eyed keeping up with all this tariff bingo. I wonder if Goodwill is listed on the NASDAQ.
So basically it looks like UPS is charging twice
After Sept 8 they charge 2.50 on the shipper end as an added fee and then the fee to process the package again on the receiver side.
Am I reading that correctly?
That is quite a nice scam.
Part of this whole deal is towards privatization of your mail service.
What used to cost me 8 bucks to send to the US will now be 40
Big business is great!
I wonder how many small business are going to go under to please this clown.
After Sept 8 they charge 2.50 on the shipper end as an added fee and then the fee to process the package again on the receiver side.
Am I reading that correctly?
That is quite a nice scam.
Part of this whole deal is towards privatization of your mail service.
What used to cost me 8 bucks to send to the US will now be 40
Big business is great!
I wonder how many small business are going to go under to please this clown.
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