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ChonkyTonks

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 14, 2022
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I have central and obstructive sleep apnea. Not weight related. I went from a standard CPAP to a Bi-level to an ASV which I use now. That takes care of the centrals now that it senses when I stop breathing. I wish there were a different way to deal with it but it is the best I have right now. My wife no longer stays up to see if I am still breathing.
 

dd57chevy

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 7, 2023
722
2,477
Iowa
2020 I was experiencing terrible fatigue . Running my own business , was getting half the volume of work done that I should have .I'd make it into my home & collapse .
My Doc suggested a sleep test . Severe sleep apnea . I was having an episode every 45 seconds . My oxygen level dipped to 57 % !
Got a CPAP & I was a new man !
 

cosmicfolklore

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Aug 9, 2013
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I don’t know how old the OP is, nor many of you, but when I hit 50, my doctor told me that at my age exercise isn’t going to burn weight off alone. Up till then, I could run five miles a day and burn off 10 pounds easily. I still exercise for my heart and for that “feel good” feeling. But, it’s diet that trims the fat… at my age.

Good luck with this journey. I hope you hit your goals.
 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
6,620
11,989
Tennessee
Went to the doctor today because I'm upset with how much I weigh. Got weighed at 299.4 lbs and I'm 6ft tall. He measured my neck and it was 19.7 inches. He's having me take a sleep study to check for sleep apnea. He said once I'm diagnosed he will prescribe me a GLP-1.

Anyone else have sleep apnea? I'm always tired and I snore very loudly. When I sleep on my back I'll wake up gasping for breath.
Bah, you're a twig. I'm 5'8'' and 310. After I retired from that army, I developed a love affair with bacon... And doughnuts covered with maple and... bacon... and hotdogs with peanut butter...and bacon. You get the idea. I finally after about 7 years of chubbiness have light diabetes. My doc is GLP resistant because you tend to lose weight so fast you get baggy skin and whatnot.

I may very well have sleep apnea. My wife says I snore every night and keeps pushing me to see a doctor. I've been avoiding it so far.
Not fat though. puffy
I developed sleep apnea before I became a chubby bunny. I recently had to do another sleep study to replace my ancient CPAP. I apparently stop breathing 44 times an hour. My new CPAP boosts up to 15lb, but they want to test me with it on to see if I need O2.

Weight can be a factor in develping Apnea, but it isn't 100% weight dependant. But if you have bad apnea, you are losing brain cells if you don't get it treated with a CPAP or surgery.
 

sardonicus87

Lifer
Jun 28, 2022
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I'm 5'8, currently 125 lbs. Most of my adult life, this was my weight, but one time I was on a medication and my weight shot up to 240 lbs. I dieted and exercised and no amount of work took it off while I was on that medication.

Hormones and genetics play a big part in what your body does with different intakes, it's definitely not always as simple as just having a caloric deficit or only getting your calories from certain sources. Some people, from genetics, gain weight on high fat diets while others lose. I didn't lose any weight until off that medication and my weight naturally went down over time to 180 lbs, plateaued there for a while, then went back down again to about 160 lbs, then later (with slight dietary modification) to my current (and normal for me) 125 lbs.
 

LOREN

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Oct 21, 2019
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Reread and parse my response. It starts with "if" and suggests meds may be necessary.

My, clearly, non-clinical response is based on years of anecdotal observation. Me being the most observed. Heart problems pushed me into exerting more self-control over diet and exercise. Sleep apnea, hip arthritis, and host of other minor distractions disappeared or abated.
"If one can't exert self-control..." I may be wrong, but I believe that was the phrase greeneyes was trying to address. That's just my take on it.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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Reread and parse my response. It starts with "if" and suggests meds may be necessary.

My, clearly, non-clinical response is based on years of anecdotal observation. Me being the most observed. Heart problems pushed me into exerting more self-control over diet and exercise. Sleep apnea, hip arthritis, and host of other minor distractions disappeared or abated.
you suffer from living in a time and place where equivocation is at a stupidly commonly high rate, while being what they call a straight shooter.
 

greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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These are some health risks that are caused by obesity (source):

Type 2 diabetes​
High blood pressure​
Heart disease​
Stroke​
Metabolic syndrome​
Fatty liver diseases​
Some cancers​
Breathing problems​
Osteoarthritis​
Gout​
Diseases of the gallbladder and pancreas​
Kidney disease​
Pregnancy problems​
Fertility problems​
Sexual function problems​
Mental health problems​

My hope is that insurance companies will see the potential for savings, a "stich in time saves nine" approach, and make them affordable for patients when indicated to prevent what could be a whole lots of expense further down the line.
 
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John C.

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Nov 7, 2020
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I have a number of folks in my circle who are on GLP's for similar reasons and all have had good success with their weight and underlying conditions...Good luck buddy!
I'll 2nd this from my own experience & advice from doctors across multiple fields. Start by getting yourself feeling better. The Glp will help with that, just don't solely rely on them. Best of Luck & feel better!
 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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These are some health risks that are caused by obesity (source):

Type 2 diabetes​
High blood pressure​
Heart disease​
Stroke​
Metabolic syndrome​
Fatty liver diseases​
Some cancers​
Breathing problems​
Osteoarthritis​
Gout​
Diseases of the gallbladder and pancreas​
Kidney disease​
Pregnancy problems​
Fertility problems​
Sexual function problems​
Mental health problems​

My hope is that insurance companies will see the potential for savings, a "stich in time saves nine" approach, and make them affordable for patients when indicated to prevent what could be a whole lots of expense further down the line.

Indeed ^^^^

Here's some food for thought regarding that state of affairs. (No oblique pun intended)

How could something that is so common---being overweight---be so uniformly bad and have no benefits at all?

Because it's an unintended consequence of humans having evolved in an environment where acquiring energy was essential, but also risky and difficult. Put another way, we're hardwired to eat as much as possible when the opportunity presents itself, and expend as little energy as possible between meals.

Those individuals who didn't either starved or became food for other creatures.

It was that way from the first day we walked upright. No other options, no negotiating with the Second law of Thermodynamics, there was no way out of it.

Then, millions of years on, all at once---overnight in evolutionary terms---food became plentiful for a large percentage of the human population, and eating unlimited quantities for pleasure was possible.

Doing that, though was literally unnatural. Eating more than the minimum required to survive is not something our bodies were designed for.

And when it happens, all manner of biological mechanisms get screwed up.

The end.



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Richmond B. Funkenhouser

Plebeian Supertaster
Dec 6, 2019
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Too much food = being overweight

No fat person has ever died of starvation.

No expert needed to figure that out.

Conditions that make a person more likely to overeat, or burn fewer calories do exist.
 
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Puff nstuff

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Sleep apnea is a significant risk factor for cardiac arrhythmias and that type of thing can lead down the road to multiple irreversible comorbidities.
My own experiences directly reflect this. I am 6 ft tall and have never weighed over 200. Nevertheless around 15 years ago (in my 40s) my wife convinced me to ask my doctor about sleep apnea after complaining to me about my snoring and sleepytime breathing issues for years (gasping, going too long without a breath, etc ). I was diagnosed with apnea and given a CPAP machine which I was unable to tolerate. I was then referred to a dentist who specializes in treating apnea with dental devices and have used one for years to great success.
Around 6 years ago I started having a-fib episodes that were often triggered by a combination of exertion and high altitude (less oxygen). However, the first time it happened was when I went to bed one night without my dental device; woke up dizzy with my heart doing the mambo.
Apnea starves your body of oxygen when it interrupts your normal breathing. I have come to believe that my many years of sleeping with untreated apnea had a direct and negative impact on my heart health which manifested as a-fib later in life.
Cardioversion is not fun; neither is being on meds to regulate your heartbeat. Luckily I have great medical insurance and was able to have a cardiac ablation procedure done, which was successful in prohibiting any further a-fib attacks. I'm cured for the time being, but have been warned that the arrhythmia could return at some point in the future.
 
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For the last few years I've been in the same boat, 6ft 300lbs, down to 260lbs so far this summer due to both hiking 20 miles a week and buying lots of protein powder (avoid getting skinny-fat).
Best motivation to lose weight right now is for every 10lbs I shed my feet will hurt A LOT less.

Also worth pointing out my heart rate is amazing right now even if I'm not technically at a healthy weight just yet (haven't measured it but you can feel how much your chest is pounding when you're trying to go to sleep).
 
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greeneyes

Lifer
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My own experiences directly reflect this. I am 6 ft tall and have never weighed over 200. Nevertheless around 15 years ago (in my 40s) my wife convinced me to ask my doctor about sleep apnea after complaining to me about my snoring and sleepytime breathing issues for years (gasping, going too long without a breath, etc ). I was diagnosed with apnea and given a CPAP machine which I was unable to tolerate. I was then referred to a dentist who specializes in treating apnea with dental devices and have used one for years to great success.
Around 6 years ago I started having a-fib episodes that were often triggered by a combination of exertion and high altitude (less oxygen). However, the first time it happened was when I went to bed one night without my dental device; woke up dizzy with my heart doing the mambo.
Apnea starves your body of oxygen when it interrupts your normal breathing. I have come to believe that my many years of sleeping with untreated apnea had a direct and negative impact on my heart health which manifested as a-fib later in life.
Cardioversion is not fun; neither is being on meds to regulate your heartbeat. Luckily I have great medical insurance and was able to have a cardiac ablation procedure done, which was successful in prohibiting any further a-fib attacks. I'm cured for the time being, but have been warned that the arrhythmia could return at some point in the future.
Absolutely. The research group I'm a part of works primarily on pacemakers and ablation procedures. Outcomes seem quite good, though there is always room for improvement, and there are lots of new ablation platforms and technologies that are gaining traction, including "pulse-field ablation." I have a few friends outside work that have managed their afib successfully with cardioversion-ablation. There isn't a whole lot known about what actually leads from apnea to afib, but there are a bunch of nerves in the pulmonary arteries that shuttle blood between the heart and lungs, and those nerves can sense oxygen (or the lack of it during apnea) and blood pressure, and lead into the heart where they can affect heart rhythm. There are other factors at play, as the heart can contain "circuits" of "self-firing" loops.
 
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