Manhunt in Montana

[Briar Lee]

A suspect is on the run after four people were killed in a shooting at a bar in the US state of Montana, authorities say.

The shooting happened at The Owl Bar in the city of Anaconda at around 10:30 local time, the Montana Division of Criminal Investigation confirmed to the BBC's US partner CBS.

The US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) said it was "responding to a shooting where multiple parties have been shot at a business in Anaconda".

Anaconda is a former copper smelting hub, with a population of almost 10,000 people in southwestern Montana, 109 miles (175km) west of Bozeman.

The Anaconda-Deer Lodge County Law Enforcement Center named the suspect as Michael Paul Brown in a social media post, adding he is "believed to be armed and dangerous".

"If seen do not approach," the department said.

"Contact 911 for any way to contact Michael Paul Brown."

Officials are calling on Anaconda residents to stay home and lock their doors.

The Granite County Sheriff's Office, which is nearby to Anaconda, posted on social media that the gunman "is said to be wearing a tye dyed shirt, blue jeans and a orange bandana".

The sheriff's office added that the gunman's home in Anaconda had been searched, and "cleared by SWAT" teams.

The Owl Bar was built in 1893 to serve Anaconda's copper workers, according to a 1987 article in the Montana Standard newspaper. It's located in a neighbourhood of Anaconda called Goosetown.

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Fans of Elmer Keith stories know of the armed posses that will hunt down Michael Paul Brown, and if his dear old mother is still living the reporters will find her, and all his former classmates will tell how surprised or not they are at the news. In the end the law always wins.

What makes this story the more interesting is who wants their obituary to state they died at 10:30 on a Friday morning in the Owl Bar in the Goosetown neighborhood of Anaconda?


The motive is unknown, but I’ll speculate:

Sing one George!

Open Pit Mine

 

[Servant King]

Saw the thread title and my first thought was, "Looks like a new blend from Seattle Pipe Club." Which of course led to my next thought of, "Wow, even their blend naming is suffering in Joe Lankford's absence." Then I remembered that they're being assimilated into the STG borg.

You can tell I don't get out much, right?

 

[didimauw]

Saw the thread title and my first thought was, "Looks like a new blend from Seattle Pipe Club." Which of course led to my next thought of, "Wow, even their blend naming is suffering in Joe Lankford's absence." Then I remembered that they're being assimilated into the STG borg.

You can tell I don't get out much, right?

I'd smoke that!

 

[DeaconPiper]

Remember driving last summer from Central Washington to North Carolina with the family. Passing through Montana, I noticed an artifact in the distance, it looked like one of the towers from Lord of the Rings. A few weeks later, we returned the same way and saw it again. When we reached home, my wife looked into it. Sure enough, Anaconda.

 

[sablebrush52]

Then I remembered that they're being assimilated into the STG borg.

Where did you hear that?

 

[Briar Lee]

I’ve been following news stories since my mother read them to me in my crib.

The follow up here from The New York Times is why, the truth is usually more interesting than anything you can dream up.

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Witnesses said they heard gunshots in the Owl Bar around 10:30 a.m. local time. Mr. Brown was well known around town, and social media posts show he had been to the establishment.

Mr. Brown joined the Army in January 2001 and had deployed to Iraq for a little over a year between 2004 and 2005 before leaving the service in May 2005 as a sergeant, an Army spokeswoman said. He was in the Montana National Guard for about two years until March 2008.

Two relatives of Mr. Brown said he had returned from the Army with physical ailments and severe post-traumatic stress disorder that gave him night terrors. They said he was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.

One of the relatives, a sister who spoke on the condition that her name not be used, said that Mr. Brown would claim that famous movies had been based on his actions overseas. He sometimes told people that he was Jason Bourne, or a five-star general on a secret mission.

She and other family members had tried to get help for Mr. Brown from the Department of Veterans Affairs, she said, but without Mr. Brown’s cooperation, little could be done.

Tobe McHugh, 48, and Tyler Edwards, 25, two mechanics in the area, said Mr. Brown had, in the past, told them wild stories, including about being a professional golfer or completing secret missions.

“He’s a calm guy, but he’s out there,” Mr. McHugh said, as he stood outside of another bar down the street from the Owl. “He was always telling stories.”

Mr. Brown grew up mostly in Anaconda, a former copper smelting town near Butte in Deer Lodge County, with a population of about 10,000. Records show that he lived just two houses down from the Owl Bar, a local dive with a pool table, a clutter of decorations and a sign out front that boasts the “best tap beer in town.”

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It’s 10:30 am on a Friday and the bartender of the Owl Bar and three patrons on stools greet the local bullshitter.

Maybe he left somebody alive to tell why.

One of them could have still taken his girl.

It is, possible, although looking less likely by the minute.

Sing one Tanya!

Blood Red and Goin Down

 

[Servant King]

Where did you hear that?

Thought SPC was one of the casualties of the fallout from earlier this year, along with Newminster, H&H etc.

Not so? I would love to have been wrong about that.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Isn't the BATF a tax collection agency?

 

[Briar Lee]

Isn't the BATF a tax collection agency?

If the BATF is on the ground in Montana it is because if a person has been adjudicated mentally incompetent there is a legal bar to selling them modern firearms and ammunition.

According to his sister, the perp thought he was Jason Bourne somedays, other days a five star general on a secret mission.

Anybody who’s ever spent much time in a dive bar knows the place is full of old SEAL team members and Green Berets whose fifty year old missions are still classified.

But claiming you are a five star general on a secret mission, is rare even where the floors are sawdust and the doors swing open on springs.

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Investigators searching for a man they say shot and killed four people at a Montana bar Friday morning have located the vehicle he fled in, but the suspect remains on the loose, officials said.

A white Ford F-150 that Michael Paul Brown is believed to have been driving was found Friday, but Brown “was not located in or around the vehicle,” Montana Division of Criminal Investigation Administrator Lee Johnson said at a news conference late Friday.

Authorities are now focusing their search in the mountains near Stumptown Road, west of Anaconda, where the shooting took place, Johnson said.





Somewhere in that area there’s an old man who keeps bloodhounds.

Sing one Jimmy C Newman!

Like the Devil Was Laughing at Me

 

[sablebrush52]

Thought SPC was one of the casualties of the fallout from earlier this year, along with Newminster, H&H etc.

Not so? I would love to have been wrong about that.

Casualty, yes, but not because STD owned them. Sutliff did their blending.
Last I heard they were looking at options to replace Sutliff and bring their blends back to market.

 

[telescopes]

Anybody who’s ever spent much time in a dive bar knows the place is full of old SEAL team members and Green Berets whose fifty year old missions are still classified.

Huh?

Just what dive bars have you been frequenting?

 

[anotherbob]

Huh?

Just what dive bars have you been frequenting?

I think he means old guys who tell grand bullshit stories about their past. I certainly have met a few.

 

[telescopes]

I think he means old guys who tell grand bullshit stories about their past. I certainly have met a few.

True enough, but eh, I think he was being serious which fits in with his world view as I have read it on here and in private. Remember, all of the people charged with carrying the nuclear football are all members of the Christian Church Cambelitte movement.

 

[Hillcrest]

I don't know what you are reading or 'speculating' but his family has said :

Brown's niece, Clare Boyle, told the AP on Friday that her uncle has struggled with mental illness for years and that she and her other family members repeatedly sought help.

"This isn't just a drunk/high man going wild," she wrote in a Facebook message. "It's a sick man who doesn't know who he is sometimes and frequently doesn't know where or when he is either."

 

[Briar Lee]

Huh?

Just what dive bars have you been frequenting?

Bars open (or at least used to) early in the morning.

Humansville Missouri has had a bar in continuous operation since the railroad came to town in 1885.

Google Search

Such places are full of heroic veterans of foreign wars whose missions are still classified and they are subject to recall in times of national emergencies.

Listen longer, and they’ll tell you of their operations where they died several times on the operating table and had near death experiences.

Sadder, are the ladies who come in of evenings, and cackle and cough and smoke and laugh with the heroic veterans of foreign wars, until closing time.

Sing one, Tom T Hall

Before Jesse Died

 

[telescopes]

Bars open (or at least used to) early in the morning.

Humansville Missouri has had a bar in continuous operation since the railroad came to town in 1885.

Google Search

Such places are full of heroic veterans of foreign wars whose missions are still classified and they are subject to recall in times of national emergencies.

Listen longer, and they’ll tell you of their operations where they died several times on the operating table and had near death experiences.

Sadder, are the ladies who come in of evenings, and cackle and cough and smoke and laugh with the heroic veterans of foreign wars, until closing time.

Sing one, Tom T Hall

Before Jesse Died

As someone who I think is pretty much a non drinker... do you spend a lot of time in these bars? There are plenty of blow hards to be sure. As someone who does spend a fair amount of time at the American Legion, if you are referring to these members, you might want to pull back any sarcastic tone if indeed it is sarcasm. Dive bars certainly have their characters and a lot of sh$t is certainly said.

 

[Briar Lee]

War story time.

I was born in 1958 and when I was 17 on April 30, 1975 the Vietnam War ended in total defeat.

About twenty years later, I had a client for disability who claimed he was suffering from PTSD from having several helicopters shot out from under him in Vietnam after he graduated high school in 1976. He also had served as a Green Beret in several locations in Southeast Asia he still couldn’t talk about.

I had him step out of my office and called his old mother back, and she said he’d tried to join the army but washed out of basic training.

One of the easiest disability cases I ever won, under the rules of the mid 1990s.

The poor guy had told every doctor his mother sent him to his fantasy about combat heroics.

He also had a microchip planted in his ass, and black helicopters spied on him all the time.

The vast majority of people are sane.

The ones who aren’t, we can pay a little money each month so they can live independently, or we can build insane asylums and warehouse them.

But if they are living free, they can also get ahold of a gun.

Which usually doesn’t mean they’ll shoot up a bar, but sometimes they do.

 

[Briar Lee]

As someone who I think is pretty much a non drinker... do you spend a lot of time in these bars? There are plenty of blow hards to be sure. As someone who does spend a fair amount of time at the American Legion, if you are referring to these members, you might want to pull back any sarcastic tone if indeed it is sarcasm. Dive bars certainly have their characters and a lot of sh$t is certainly said.

It used to be, the American Legion required overseas military service. I’ll bet the war stories there are real.

The bars I have been in are few, and most about fifty years ago.


They are sort of a church for those whose homes aren’t where they find comfort, you know?

Pop a Top

 

[Hillcrest]

War story time.

I was born in 1958 and when I was 17 on April 30, 1975 the Vietnam War ended in total defeat.

About twenty years later, I had a client for disability who claimed he was suffering from PTSD from having several helicopters shot out from under him in Vietnam after he graduated high school in 1976. He also had served as a Green Beret in several locations in Southeast Asia he still couldn’t talk about.

I had him step out of my office and called his old mother back, and she said he’d tried to join the army but washed out of basic training.

One of the easiest disability cases I ever won, under the rules of the mid 1990s.

The poor guy had told every doctor his mother sent him to his fantasy about combat heroics.

He also had a microchip planted in his ass, and black helicopters spied on him all the time.

The vast majority of people are sane.

The ones who aren’t, we can pay a little money each month so they can live independently, or we can build insane asylums and warehouse them.

But if they are living free, they can also get ahold of a gun.

Which usually doesn’t mean they’ll shoot up a bar, but sometimes they do.

I have heard that a lot of lawyers tell tall tales 'at the bar' as well

 

[anotherbob]

I have heard that a lot of lawyers tell tall tales 'at the bar' as well

nah that's the time they have to be honest. It's the rest of the time you got to worry about them.