Yes, I wonder how the OP feels about colonoscopies or gastroscopies ?
Why are estate pipes ok?
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As many have mentioned, this is 100% an ick thing. Even the most persistent bacteria from saliva can only survive a few weeks. And that's under extremely favorable conditions. Viruses generally are safe within 2-24 hours.
The odds of getting ill from an uncleaned piece of rubber or plastic after the saliva is dry is very small.
Even a light wiping with a clean paper towel will lower that more. Thoroughly cleaning with soap and water, even lower odds. Cleaning with a high alcohol agent makes the odds astronomically small.
A light wipe with an alcohol pad kills 99+% of bacteria and viruses.
That said, I prefer new pipes. But I also like old British and French pipes. So on occasion I buy and use estate pipes.
The odds of getting ill from an uncleaned piece of rubber or plastic after the saliva is dry is very small.
Even a light wiping with a clean paper towel will lower that more. Thoroughly cleaning with soap and water, even lower odds. Cleaning with a high alcohol agent makes the odds astronomically small.
A light wipe with an alcohol pad kills 99+% of bacteria and viruses.
That said, I prefer new pipes. But I also like old British and French pipes. So on occasion I buy and use estate pipes.
Don’t like the idea of estates, don’t buy one.
I bought estates during the plandemic, and even though I’m unvaxed I survived.
I bought estates during the plandemic, and even though I’m unvaxed I survived.
I've never put my mouth on a community or a private toilet. However, I have no problems with an estate pipe that appeals to me. Guess I've never found a toilet that does the same.
I wonder if betadine would work as a stain for refinishing “estates for germaphobes”….
Absolutely, it stains my cloths pretty good. I use a lot of it.
It's always funny to me the germaphobes who enjoy pipe tobacco. I can guarantee the tobacco you're puffing on wasn't given a disinfecting bath after being grown outdoors! Gasp! The horror! Why any animal or bug could have come by and nibbled on it or peed on it. Not to mention the warehouse floors it sat on or the hands of folks at distributors or blenders who may have touched it.
If you want to ensure no germs or icky thoughts ever invade your sanitary bubble you should probably stick to vaping and lab grown meat.
If you want to ensure no germs or icky thoughts ever invade your sanitary bubble you should probably stick to vaping and lab grown meat.
Funny you should say that, because St Padre Pio strongly advised against using things that had belonged to a dead person. What I read specifically dealt with wearing clothes from a deceased person, but I strongly believe that anything used long and regularly by someone gets imbued with his essence to a lesser or greater degree. Ever put on something that belonged to a departed one and felt depressed that day? Well, something to do with the garment, chances high.
The context and the things items are used for also matter. And with used stuff most times we simply have no idea not only how well they were taken care of (which impacts the more mundane issue of durability and hidden damage), but where they've been and what things were done with them. Who in his right mind and spirit would want to smoke from a pipe somebody else used to smoke whilst reading from a grimoire? Why would I want to use a leather knife that some pervious leatherworker used to make sexual bondage paraphernalia? &c., &c.
Even when I get brand new tools I spray them with holy water.
Imagine a hand-rolled cigar in Havana, where the electricity and water are cut off every day.
Things are things.
I'm more worried about wearing a pair of sneakers made by a 10-year-old boy, alive, from Bangladesh.
That’s all we really are, smoking our pipes (except not as stinky).
That's actually an on the nose comparison.
We fell into a trap. It's not about proving why Estate pipes are OK—which is accepted in the community—but rather about the author explaining why they would be unOK
Wait until he finds out that many pipe makers test the draw of their creations with their mouths.
Or how many do the same with "new" pipes at B&Ms
Just about everything new or old is covered with various biologicals. If you were to look at the dust mites that are associated with shed skin, it is unlikely a phobic person would survive the onslaught to their imagination. We are biological creatures who live in a world of biological creates, many of which are too small to be seen with the naked eye. You are breathing them in with every breath and exhaling other ones so that others get to sample yours every minute of the day.
It is just the way life is.
With that reality, an estate pipe doesn’t bother me in the slightest. They can be “cleaned” to the best of our ability. But a new pipe, or an unwrapped straw from 7-11 could warrant a similar “cleaning” for all the good it does.
If I like a pipe (estate or new) it is one I would consider getting.
It is just the way life is.
With that reality, an estate pipe doesn’t bother me in the slightest. They can be “cleaned” to the best of our ability. But a new pipe, or an unwrapped straw from 7-11 could warrant a similar “cleaning” for all the good it does.
If I like a pipe (estate or new) it is one I would consider getting.
ExactlyOr how many do the same with "new" pipes at B&Ms
Ooh, now I want a stainless steel stem just to say I have one. The only barrier is I don't think I can afford it.
I know it's been said, but I like both new and estate pipes. New pipes let you enjoy the feeling of breaking them in. Used (estates) let you get something that is no longer in production, or at a lower price point . Both have their advantages and disadvantages. If it's not for you, it's not for you. I've got plenty of both origins and I love it.
I'll paraphrase Yukon Cornelius again...
You smoke what you like and I'll smoke what I like...WAAAUGH!
I'll paraphrase Yukon Cornelius again...
You smoke what you like and I'll smoke what I like...WAAAUGH!