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Whenry

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It’s no surprise that many a pipesmoker starts out with some kinda cherry-flavored aromatic. Same road I walked down myself. My first stop was McLintock’s Black Cherry, and I tell ya, that stuff was about as pleasant as tryin’ to wrestle a wild boar in a Sunday suit. A mess of black cavendish that felt more like black tea than tobacco. Damn thing wouldn’t catch light, flavor was weaker than watered-down whiskey, and it burned like it held a grudge. Learned me a valuable lesson, though—never trust an aromatic made with black cavendish.

After that misstep, I wandered into Lakeland territory, and once I got a taste of what they had to offer, I figured I’d left cherry aromatics behind for good. But life’s got a funny way of bringin’ things full circle. While explorin’ Gawith’s portfolio, I stumbled across Cherry Cream Flake. Virginia flake, cherry topping—it sounded downright curious. A cherry aromatic made with straight Virginias, pressed into a flake? Had to see it to believe it.

So I picked up a couple ounces. Tried it. Fell head over heels. Now, I ain’t one for cherry aromatics, but when the mood strikes for a fruity smoke, I’d reach for Cherry Cream Flake without a second thought.

The flake itself? Beautiful as a sunrise over the open plains. It’s pressed so tight and neat it’s practically a damn rectangle. Feels like a rock in your hand—ain’t no quick-rubbin’ this stuff out, let me tell ya. You gotta take your time with it, peel it apart like you’re unwrappin’ a secret.

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Now, take a moment to admire somethin’ like that. A flake of such quality—do you reckon you’d get the same if you ordered GH tobaccos today? Nah, I wouldn’t bet a dollar on it. Seems like Gawith’s let their standards slip somethin’ awful.

But I digress. The Cherry Cream Flake smells like a proper cherry ought to—tart and fresh, none of that chemical rot you find in lesser blends. Takes about an hour to dry it out just right, but it lights up easy enough. Thing is, you gotta tread careful with it. Unlike some other GH blends, this one bites back if you rush it. Slow and steady wins this race, and when you get it right, you’re rewarded with the sweet, creamy Virginia flavor, with the cherry sittin’ just in the background. The room note’s somethin’ else entirely—smells like a basket of ripe cherries, fresh off the tree.

It’s a goddamn shame this blend’s been discontinued. A real work of art, tossed aside like yesterday’s news. I remember when Gawith used to care—when they made tobacco to please all kinds of palates. Now? Seems all they care about is cuttin’ corners, savin’ time, and chasin’ profits. Quality’s gone downhill faster than a wagon with no brakes, and they’re pushin’ GH into mediocrity, one blend at a time.

For those of us who once loved Cherry Cream Flake, the best they offer now is few mixtures with black cavendish in it or some twist that ain’t worth its name. Damn shame, I tell ya. Damn shame.
 

Briarcutter

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If you like cherry, try SG Celtic Talisman. I'm not a aromatic smoker but I do enjoy that one. Can't speak for current production though. The tins I have are probably five years aged.
 
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Whenry

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If you like cherry, try SG Celtic Talisman. I'm not a aromatic smoker but I do enjoy that one. Can't speak for current production though. The tins I have are probably five years aged.
I’ll be sure to give it a go if I ever stumble across an old tin. Can’t say I trust their newer stuff much these days. Tried some of that new Black Forest not long ago, and I’ll tell ya—flavor just ain’t right. Somethin’s off, like they’ve forgotten what good tobacco’s supposed to be.
 
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I actually really appreciate the way Gawith does their aromatics: not too goopy, overly saturated with that chemical taste and mouth feel but more of an aggressive casing.

If you like cherry, you should try their twist rope offering too.
 
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Briarcutter

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Whenry, Gawith is still our friend. At least they are still producing tobacco in this unfriendly tobacco world. You may want to ease back on the bashing throttle a tad. Nothing is as it was years ago. I've been smoking a pipe long enough to remember buying Scottish Nuns off the shelf, and I tell you, nothing is the same. Let's be grateful of what we still have.
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
Gawith is still our friend. At least they are still producing tobacco in this unfriendly tobacco world. You may want to ease back on the bashing throttle a tad. Nothing is as it was years ago. I've been smoking a pipe long enough to remember buying Scottish Nuns off the shelf, and I tell you, nothing is the same. Let's be grateful of what we still have.
Bless your heart!
 

Whenry

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Whenry, Gawith is still our friend. At least they are still producing tobacco in this unfriendly tobacco world. You may want to ease back on the bashing throttle a tad. Nothing is as it was years ago. I've been smoking a pipe long enough to remember buying Scottish Nuns off the shelf, and I tell you, nothing is the same. Let's be grateful of what we still have.
Look, I try my best to understand different opinions on this. Some folks don’t notice any change, some figure it’s just batch variation or the crops, and then there’s those who admit the quality’s dropped but still buy it ‘cause there ain’t much better out there. I respect all that—I truly do. But I’ve got an opinion of my own, and I reckon I’ve been fair about it. I’ve called it like I see it, pointed out the drop in quality without insultin’ anyone personally. Ain’t that what a review’s for?

This here’s a place to share honest thoughts, and that’s what I’m doin’. Some folk might not like it, but so what? Nobody’s twistin’ their arm to read it. Yet, somehow, they keep comin’ back, flingin’ insults like kids in a schoolyard. And for what? To shut me up? Don’t seem like they’re doin’ too good a job of it, considerin’.

Truth is, I’ve been a longtime fan of GH, and it pains me to see ‘em headed down this path. If they don’t get their act together, I reckon they’ll end up just like Peterson after STG took over. That ain’t a future I wanna see, but it’s where things are headin’, and it hurts to watch a brand I cared for fall so low.
 

telescopes

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Look, I try my best to understand different opinions on this. Some folks don’t notice any change, some figure it’s just batch variation or the crops, and then there’s those who admit the quality’s dropped but still buy it ‘cause there ain’t much better out there. I respect all that—I truly do. But I’ve got an opinion of my own, and I reckon I’ve been fair about it. I’ve called it like I see it, pointed out the drop in quality without insultin’ anyone personally. Ain’t that what a review’s for?

This here’s a place to share honest thoughts, and that’s what I’m doin’. Some folk might not like it, but so what? Nobody’s twistin’ their arm to read it. Yet, somehow, they keep comin’ back, flingin’ insults like kids in a schoolyard. And for what? To shut me up? Don’t seem like they’re doin’ too good a job of it, considerin’.

Truth is, I’ve been a longtime fan of GH, and it pains me to see ‘em headed down this path. If they don’t get their act together, I reckon they’ll end up just like Peterson after STG took over. That ain’t a future I wanna see, but it’s where things are headin’, and it hurts to watch a brand I cared for fall so low.
That’s an opinion. Clearly others disagree and think differently. That’s not what gets your detractors talking… or should I say talk in’. You clearly have a narrative to promote. To the point - that instead of dialog - it becomes trolling. The quality of G&H standards have not been changes because of capitalistic shareholder choices. As others succinctly pointed out, @sablebrush52 and @jpberg (Lord help us) the issues have to do with the changing dynamics of the times we live in. This last point is a factual and measurable set of data. Instead of discussing these points, your focus on on your own proclevities and pontifications supersedes all other frames of reference. At a minimum, it is trolling a company. What you rant as a change in quality for others has been a welcome relief. The fact we can actually get G&H tobacco - is worth a lot. My recent order of Ennerdale has so much sauce in it imthat my office smells of it even thought it is in a closed cabinet. The ropes and plugs are as good as ever. The Burnt Flakes resist sharpened Japanese steel. What you have presented is a select series of opinions seperate from the context of hundreds of other users who stay up to date regarding what is occurring with the regulations and government rules that impact such companies. Shit changes. Some years are more agreeable than others. Attacking the company demonstrates a depth of reasoning that leads many to think you are either a troll, or the AI reincarnation of Bob, LOL. But I rest assured knowing that none of what I’ve written matters other than it is preserved. So with that, I wish you well and many happy smokes.
 

Briarcutter

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Dear Whenry, you'll catch more flies with honey, than with vinegar. Or maybe around here, you'll keep more readers on the follow list than you will on the ignore list. You are right, this should be a place to vent our thoughts and opinions. But you're beating a dead horse my friend. Give us your thoughts on a product without beating the dead horse of change. We all know things are changing, sounds like you want to change them back to what they once were, more power to you! I don't think this is the place to do that. Maybe you could write the company directly and voice your concerns. If that doesn't work, suck it up and either accept it or buy something else. Can't change people,places or things😉
 

greeneyes

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Whenry, Gawith is still our friend. At least they are still producing tobacco in this unfriendly tobacco world. You may want to ease back on the bashing throttle a tad. Nothing is as it was years ago. I've been smoking a pipe long enough to remember buying Scottish Nuns off the shelf, and I tell you, nothing is the same. Let's be grateful of what we still have.
If I had to guess, I'd say the pages and pages of heckling and drawing attention to it didn't help much. Otherwise it would have been a review like any other. Instead the pushback has turned it into some sort of "cause célèbre" and people are apparently taking the bait. Twice.
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
If I had to guess, I'd say the pages and pages of heckling and drawing attention to it didn't help much. Otherwise it would have been a review like any other. Instead the pushback has turned it into some sort of "cause célèbre" and people are apparently taking the bait. Twice.
Geez, give the fish some credit, LOL.
 

Whenry

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Dec 15, 2021
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Dear Whenry, you'll catch more flies with honey, than with vinegar. Or maybe around here, you'll keep more readers on the follow list than you will on the ignore list. You are right, this should be a place to vent our thoughts and opinions. But you're beating a dead horse my friend. Give us your thoughts on a product without beating the dead horse of change. We all know things are changing, sounds like you want to change them back to what they once were, more power to you! I don't think this is the place to do that. Maybe you could write the company directly and voice your concerns. If that doesn't work, suck it up and either accept it or buy something else. Can't change people,places or things😉
Dear Briarcutter,

I appreciate your concern, but I reckon we’ll have to agree to disagree. That dead horse you mentioned? Far as I can tell, it’s alive and kickin’. Now, let’s set aside all the emotions for a minute and look at this situation clear-headed, like a businessman might.

Say you’ve got a product that’s sellin’ real well, and you decide to cut corners on quality so you can churn out more of it. The new version hits the market, and lo and behold, sales don’t take a hit. Customers aren’t raisin’ a fuss either. In that kind of scenario, why on earth would you go back to the way things were? If it were me, I wouldn’t. Only way I’d rethink my approach is if sales started droppin’ or if customers kicked up enough of a storm.

Now, I don’t have official sales numbers in front of me, but I’ve kept an eye on things. For example, I’ve been watchin’ the sales of GH blends on Smokingpipes for the past three years. I know every market’s a little different, but it gives you a bit of a picture. Take the flavored twists—Rum, Whisky, Cherry—they were flyin’ off the shelves. Rum Twist especially. Back in 2024, winter stock sold out just as quick as ever. But by spring? Those twists lingered, and even now they ain’t in the top 100 bulk blends on Smokingpipes.

Seems to me, folks have noticed the dip in quality and ain’t buyin’ with the same enthusiasm anymore. That’s somethin’.

Now, as for customer service, I ain’t got much good to say there either. They never did reply to an email I sent, and that ain’t what I’d call decent service. But I did notice a GH representative spendin’ time on pipesmoking forums. Let’s be honest—she ain’t doin’ that outta the goodness of her heart. More likely, it’s her job to keep an eye on what folks are sayin’. Makes sense from a business standpoint—monitorin’ the online chatter is a whole lot easier than actually answerin’ emails.

Far as I can tell, as long as feedback stays quiet and sales hold steady, they won’t feel the need to change a thing. But imagine if people started speakin’ up. If folks weren’t afraid to voice their dissatisfaction and sales took a dive, that could force GH to rethink their ways.

Right now, it feels like a taboo to criticize GH in this forum. Anyone who tries gets mobbed like they insulted someone’s family. But what if someone, say, like me, were to challenge that and normalize a little honest critique? I know I’m not the only one unhappy with the recent changes, and I reckon more folks might feel the courage to speak up if they saw they weren’t alone.

Put together a little noise and a sales slump, and there’s hope GH might steer things back on track.
 

spearheadbill

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I’m sure if you weren’t using a lurker account which is locked and actually had the fortitude to speak your mind without this dubious anonymity we might be a takin yer pitch here a lil bit more serious. But you been a flappin yer gums with an obvious, unrelentin and pedantic veracity! Reveal yourself if’en ya got a pair pardner!!
 

Pypkė

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Look, I try my best to understand different opinions on this. Some folks don’t notice any change, some figure it’s just batch variation or the crops, and then there’s those who admit the quality’s dropped but still buy it ‘cause there ain’t much better out there. I respect all that—I truly do. But I’ve got an opinion of my own, and I reckon I’ve been fair about it. I’ve called it like I see it, pointed out the drop in quality without insultin’ anyone personally. Ain’t that what a review’s for?
Yes that's what reviews are for. But a review that makes use of fake dialect discolors it, and renders the reviewer suspect, and maybe somewhat arrogant. It's in bad taste.
 
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