Bill Cosby’s Sexual Conviction Overturned

[Sweet Home Alabama]

Have all the non law grads pontificated???

 

[Jaylotw]

While true, tightening a knot makes other sections of the rope looser.

Maybe it’ll make the section of rope loose where we lock people up for 10 years for non-violent crimes? I’d be ok with that.

 

[Jaylotw]

Have all the non law grads pontificated???

We can have opinions, too. Pretty sure law grads have put a lot of innocent people in prison, twisted and gamed the system, and worked the law into the favor of criminals and are criminals themselves.

I understand the law in this case, and understand why he’s now free. But I’ll never agree that it’s right.

 

[saltedplug]

Cosby's crimes were multiple and hideous. He should have never gotten out of prison. I don't know if such exists but they should have given him hard labor.

 

[jpberg]

Have all the non law grads pontificated???

I had a short list running in my head of what scum could be lower than a serial rapist.
Lawyers for the win!

 

[Charlie718]

We are adults. No reason to be IBTL. I was at the office today when I read online about him being free. I only knew of what I briefly read online, and knew he was in jail for rape. I never followed the case nor do I care. I did however learn through call I was on today this actually came up. As it was explained to me the complaint sued in Civil court. Mr . Cosby agreed to give basically a confession of rape, tell he did give pills and sexually assaulted victim. Both parties agreed on those terms, and a money settlement would have been reached. However a new DA filed criminal charge based on his civil disposition. That’s flat out illegal, and wrong , he spent 3 years in jail and is now free. Did he rape her? Yes! Did the DA violate the constitution? Yes. Now the Victim who was seeking money won’t get it. And punishment of 3 years served is all anyone will ever get. Who wins? Nobody my 2 cents

Cosby’s old cell mate because now he has bragging rights for rapping a known and famous rapist?? ?
but he prob wasn’t in that type of jail, he was prob in Prison Resort like Martha.

 

[Charlie718]

Things are too civilized. Rapists, women beaters, and child molesters don't need to breath.

Exactly, why make them a burden to the tax system

 

[warren]

Perhaps I shouldn't be so strident. It's simply that I can't relate to those of you who live amidst such corruption. You do have my sympathies, such a life must weigh heavily on you, sadly affecting your mental and physical health. I would find such to be intolerable and, if possible, I'd move to a more salubrious area. Again, my sympathies for your plight.

 

[Sweet Home Alabama]

We can have opinions, too. Pretty sure law grads have put a lot of innocent people in prison, twisted and gamed the system, and worked the law into the favor of criminals and are criminals themselves.

I understand the law in this case, and understand why he’s now free. But I’ll never agree that it’s right.

There is a way things work in US law.

 

[Charlie718]

When OJ was tried I knew he would get off. Why? Money and influence win every time.

Yup same, plus it was a convenient distraction from Whitewater. That’s why the judge on that one basically decided they were all guilty of embezzlement but no one cared so he wasn’t pressing charges, the public only cared that an athlete got away with murder. I always wondered how much property, stocks, money that judge got for the initial verdict

 

[Charlie718]

You don’t suppose there could be other factors at play? It has to be racist judges and juries, nationwide? In every case?

As someone who has taught at an impoverished school, with mostly black students, for over fifteen years, I can tell you that the problem is far more complicated than you seem to believe.

I see old students of mine in the bookings literally every week, and I can tell you because I knew them personally, none of them were innocent. They were doing the same shit they got busted for when they were still considered juveniles. A shame, because they had potential, but they were a product of how they were raised, or more appropriately, how they weren’t raised. That’s the part of the problem no one wants to talk about. And of course, I’m only talking about the students of mine that have ended up in jail or dead, not everyone. But a comeback of the nuclear family would solve a lot of this, for all people. Most of the boys that I’ve taught had no positive male role models in their lives outside of school. That’s not an unimportant coincidence, man. If you really feel strongly about it, mentor some kids.

It’s a shame so many people seek to further destroy the nuclear family. Problem, reaction, solution is a tactic predating Rome. Cause the problem, people react in a predicted manor (media really helps that), then provide the ready made solution.

 

[Charlie718]

I don’t understand how people can defend Cosby’s rights, when he admitted to his crimes-and they were awful and despicable. He should die in prison for what he did, that’s the appropriate punishment, and a punishment that is doled out for thousands in our society for often lesser crimes, and even on the innocent. Our rights should be defended, true, but in this case I’m having a lot of trouble reconciling Cosby’s “rights” against his obvious, clearly admitted guilt and his “right” to not serve his sentence. Something’s really broken here, and him being set free isn’t a win for anyone except in the sense that it shows just how twisted and ugly our justice system can be.

I see more people defending the case that this could be our/your rights one day. Open THE box and the lid may never go back on tightly.

 

[saltedplug]

Perhaps I shouldn't be so strident. It's simply that I can't relate to those of you who live amidst such corruption. You do have my sympathies, such a life must weigh heavily on you, sadly affecting your mental and physical health. I would find such to be intolerable and, if possible, I'd move to a more salubrious area. Again, my sympathies for your plight.

Pugnacious, arrogant, controlling.

 

[captainsousie]

We are adults. No reason to be IBTL.

Respectfully, we are adults who often act like children. (Yes, myself included)

This thread was doomed from the outset. If I can call on my superpower of declaring politics, I declare that this became political as of post #6.

 

[warren]

Even my apologies seem to trigger one or two members. Ahhh, life is good.

 

[captainsousie]

Even my apologies seem to trigger one or two members. Ahhh, life is good.

That's because you apologize like an old man. They say "i'm sorry you're such a wimp who didn't like what I did".

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

It has always baffled me how in America you have this 'plea bargaining' thing. To me that makes a total nonsense of the law.

If the prosecution in any case has sufficient evidence that a person has committed a crime then let that person be put before a judge & jury. None of this "well we'll knock 10 years off if you admit to doing another crime" or "we'll give you a non custodial if you grass on your cohorts".

That's my 2p worth.

Regards,

Jay.

If not for plea bargains, the system would be so backlogged you'd be waiting years for trials.

 

[Charlie718]

If not for plea bargains, the system would be so backlogged you'd be waiting years for trials.

Not to mention all the low hanging fruit that provide access to the hard to reach or impossible to get fruit. Like low rank “soldiers” giving up the capos and so on

 

[ray47]

I think we've seen enough. Time to close this thread and get back to pipe smoking.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

Perhaps it would have been better if they would have just taken Cosby out back of the jail and shot him in the head. Why bother with "innocent until proven guilty", civil liberties and the actual law? That seems to be the feelings of many who have posted on this thread. All sounds good and may in fact been justified in this case. However, what about if you or a loved one were falsely accused of a heinous crime? Somebody has to pay, even if they're not guilty and their rights are trampled into the ground, right? There are places that operate that way, China, Russia, Cuba and a number of 3rd world countries ruled by a tyrant. Be careful what you wish for.