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EvergreenPiper

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Only by typing the name makes me mouth watering. Such a nice oriental blend. Too bad STG/Peterson is not producing it anymore. I’m down to 5 tins of it which makes me panicking. Can someone please recommend a alternative blend?
 

lochinvar

Lifer
Oct 22, 2013
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McConnell issued it in their Heritage line as Oriental Square. I have not tried it, nor talked to anyone who has, so I can't tell you how close it is, though JimInks gave it good marks in his review. C&D's Rajaha's Court was blended to be "reminiscent of Dunhill's Durbar"....it's tasty but it's no Durbar. You might try Rattray's Red Rapparee. It is loaded with sharp, aromatic Orientals and they are the main note throughout the bowl.
 

greeneyes

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Jun 5, 2018
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They may yet manufacture it. Didn't they recently recommence producing Standard Mixture .... or London? There was a sort of a "back by popular demand" announcement a fee weeks ago. Being, I think, one of the more popular blends they produced, I can't help but think it's on the docket for reintroduction.
 

sasquatch

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Jul 16, 2012
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Durbar is unique, I know of no blend exactly like it - big fan of orientals and I'm happy to smoke Red Rap, Presby, Kensington, King Charles.... but none of them have the heady perfumey magic of Durbar. I haven't had the McConnell match, no idea how close it is. But perhaps difficulty in procuring the right leaf or essences or whatever is in it makes it not worth the manufacture - pipe smokers constantly lose this battle of bean-counting vs demand.
 

mso489

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Feb 21, 2013
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My sister sent me a tin of Durbar she found in a cigar and gift shop (that's what it was called, now closed by the virus). It was excellent, but I enjoyed it supposing I wasn't going to see it again. I'd try around with blends with similar constituent tobaccos. You won't find a match, I don't think, but if you keep an open mind, you might find something you like.
 
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mingc

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They may yet manufacture it. Didn't they recently recommence producing Standard Mixture .... or London? There was a sort of a "back by popular demand" announcement a fee weeks ago. Being, I think, one of the more popular blends they produced, I can't help but think it's on the docket for reintroduction.
Can you find a link for that announcement? I cannot find it on Google. It has to be London as Standard Mixture was part of the initial relaunch.

I've found that Rajah's Court and McConnell's Oriental and Oriental Square aren't adequate replacements. There's a richness in Durbar that those blends are missing.
 

greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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Can you find a link for that announcement? I cannot find it on Google. It has to be London as Standard Mixture was part of the initial relaunch.

I've found that Rajah's Court and McConnell's Oriental and Oriental Square aren't adequate replacements. There's a richness in Durbar that those blends are missing.
It's available on Smokingpipes, and for pre-order on Pipesandcigars ("pre-order" :rolleyes:).
 

EvergreenPiper

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Oct 3, 2019
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McConnell issued it in their Heritage line as Oriental Square. I have not tried it, nor talked to anyone who has, so I can't tell you how close it is, though JimInks gave it good marks in his review. C&D's Rajaha's Court was blended to be "reminiscent of Dunhill's Durbar"....it's tasty but it's no Durbar. You might try Rattray's Red Rapparee. It is loaded with sharp, aromatic Orientals and they are the main note throughout the bowl.

I had 4 cans of red rapparee stock up. it is a great blend but still not as smooth as Durbar.
 

EvergreenPiper

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They may yet manufacture it. Didn't they recently recommence producing Standard Mixture .... or London? There was a sort of a "back by popular demand" announcement a fee weeks ago. Being, I think, one of the more popular blends they produced, I can't help but think it's on the docket for reintroduction.
hopefully, they will reintroduce Durbar.
 
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sasquatch

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I had 4 cans of red rapparee stock up. it is a great blend but still not as smooth as Durbar.
With age, Red Rap becomes sublimely smooth - still vastly different than Durbar, but all the prickly edges go away over about 10 years. So just sit on those, they only get better.
 
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PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
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From what I read the content/blends of Dunhill Durbar and Dunhill London Mixture are the same.

Latakia - Oriental/Turkish - Virginia

I have a Murray Era Tin of Durbar, I've yet to crack it open, I've never smoked Durbar before, since they are similar contents, maybe Dunhill London Mixture is a good alternative.

London Mixture is great! :)
 

sasquatch

Lifer
Jul 16, 2012
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London Mixture is delicious, but it lacks the oriental spice, and the perfumey notes. Durbar and London Mixture share a background flavor, a "Dunhillyness" but that's about all to my taste buds.
 
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PipeIT

Lifer
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London Mixture is delicious, but it lacks the oriental spice, and the perfumey notes. Durbar and London Mixture share a background flavor, a "Dunhillyness" but that's about all to my taste buds.

Hmm interesting, I watched a video of someone comparing the two, saying the London had more spice and the Durbar more Floral. ?

Also, my tin of London is STG Era, and I smoked a bowl last week, and let me tell you, it was very Oriental Spice and Perfume. I felt like I was in a 1960s Tie Dye Turkish Bar smoking from my Hookah pipe... LOL :)
 
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lochinvar

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Oct 22, 2013
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Can you find a link for that announcement? I cannot find it on Google. It has to be London as Standard Mixture was part of the initial relaunch.

I've found that Rajah's Court and McConnell's Oriental and Oriental Square aren't adequate replacements. There's a richness in Durbar that those blends are missing.
I hate to hear that Oriental Square isn't quite the same. I agree McConnell Original Oriental isn't even in the same ballpark, it and Presbyterian being more floral and funky, with none of Durbar's sharpness and incense qualities.
 
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Lifer
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I have some jarred London Mixture and also Durbar, both Murray era. I would not trade one for the other. I think STG Durbar is just as good as Murray's.

Nice to hear that STG Durbar is just as good as Murray's.

Before cracking open my Murray's tin, I hope I can find some STG Durbar around for sale.

Thanks for that input. :)
 
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sasquatch

Lifer
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I hate to hear that Oriental Square isn't quite the same. I agree McConnell Original Oriental isn't even in the same ballpark, it and Presbyterian being more floral and funky, with none of Durbar's sharpness and incense qualities.
Incense is right, it's like, what am I even tasting here? Patchouli? It's freaky.
 
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EvergreenPiper

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From what I read the content/blends of Dunhill Durbar and Dunhill London Mixture are the same.

Latakia - Oriental/Turkish - Virginia

I have a Murray Era Tin of Durbar, I've yet to crack it open, I've never smoked Durbar before, since they are similar contents, maybe Dunhill London Mixture is a good alternative.

London Mixture is great! :)

I just tried the London mixture that I cellar 2years. It is quite closed but not as creamy as Durbar. A good replacement though! Thanks
 
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danimalia

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This is one I never got to try before it went away, and it sounds like it may have been underappreciated compared to, say, Nightcap or 965. I love Red Rap. I'll try to set aside a tin or two for long-term aging.

I doubt it's very similar to Durbar, but if you like Oriental-heavy, full Latakia blends, I love GLP Sparkplug. Worth a try and it's readily available.
 
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