The Pipes Magazine Radio Show – Episode 53
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Kevin Godbee
- Sep 19, 2013
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Kevin Godbee
Thank you for joining us for the 1st Anniversary of The Pipes Magazine Radio Show—the only radio talk show for pipe smokers and collectors. To celebrate our one year anniversary, Brian Levine will be joined in studio by show producer, Kevin Godbee as co-host. In “Pipe Parts” we will confess some of our own personal pipe mishaps that some of you may have experienced yourselves. Brian will interview Kevin. You will hear how we met, and how we developed the radio show, along with some of the background on the show along with behind-the-scenes information. This is a little bit like the show that is about the show. You’ll hear how the show was conceived and then implemented. In the mailbag segment, we will talk about what listeners wrote in about their favorite parts about the show, or their favorite shows from the past year.
Tonight’s show is sponsored by Sutliff-Tobacco.com, CupOJoes.com, SmokingPipes.com, Missouri Meerschaum, 4noggins.com, and MeerschaumStore.com, Please give them some consideration when making your next pipe or tobacco purchase.
We hope you enjoy our 50-minute show produced just for you—the pipe smoker and collector. The following link will launch a pop-up player. Alternatively, you can download the show in iTunes after the initial broadcast is complete here.
The Pipes Magazine Radio Show Host, Brian Levine (L) and Show Producer, Kevin Godbee (R)
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Saturday, I spent a wonderful day at Ohlone Cigar Lounge in Fremont, CA, sharing the stage with the ever charming Joe Fabian, who was doing a “Trunk Show” of Savinelli and Peterson pipes, which evolved into being as much of a pipe club experience as it was a sales event. It was a great opportunity to spend time with a bunch of folks talking about pipes, tobacco, food, cars, the joys of rigid-frame mountain bikes, and pretty much anything else that came up. To me, this sort of fellowship is one of the best things about pipe gatherings, and I certainly look forward to doing more in-store events in the future! At one point some of us had a conversation about why we tend to prefer one size or bowl shape to another, and we all had different views to share. Some choose pipes for their weight or their balance, others for their aesthetics, still others for capacity. This got me thinking about my own collection. While some may have very specific criteria, and their pipes exhibit a certain sort of “sameness,” my collection exhibits a pretty broad range of shapes and sizes from tiny to cavernous, and each has its place. For me, choosing the pipe I want to smoke is often as much a practical decision as it is one of whim and whimsy. On the practical side, one thing that often comes up for many of us is whether or not there is time to spend with a large bowl. For me, a certain irony arises in that decision process all too often; I think I don’t have time for a long smoke, but end up burning two small bowls instead, consuming as much time as the larger bowl would have, if not more. My whacky brain is now swirling with something almost too geeky to discuss, but I’m going to anyway. If you had, let’s say, a finite amount of tobacco and wanted to maximize your smoking time, would you be better off with smaller bowls or larger ones, especially wide, squat bowls vs. narrow, tall ones? 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Things get perhaps more interesting when it comes to bowl height. Since tall bowls tend to concentrate more of the distillates that form when tobacco burns, they can be both harder to keep lit at the bottom, and can intensify some flavors. This can be a good or a not so good thing, depending on the tobacco type, and the smoker’s preferences. I love shag cut tobaccos in tall bowls, while flakes are just too often challenging. Too, I find that fuller latakia mixtures deliver their best in medium and smaller bowls. This might have more to do with “palate fatigue” than the smoking dynamics of a particular pipe’s bowl geometry. (Truth told, unless I’m really focused on the process, I rarely could be considered a “slow smoker,” and as my cadence rises, so does the intensity of some of latakia’s less friendly characteristics, especially as the bottom of the bowl is reached. Combine that with a tall bowl, and my tongue just gets fuzzy.) 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This will be a bit of a stretch, a hill, a ridge too far for some of my pipe-smoking friends. Let’s just say the Pundit continues to suffer from being a mile too high. On a recent trip to Colorado, I traveled up and across Berthoud Pass, a mere 11,106 feet skyward, and later returned over the Continental Divide. Up and down, over, and beyond! Berthoud Pass is 1.4 billion years old, give or take a million. And the Continental Divide is a mere 70 million years old. Please, no jokes about Pundit’s age. It’s not in the millions. Just sayin’. Cutting across the Great Divide in Colorado—which slices through some 21 counties in the Centennial State since it earned statehood in 1876, 100 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence—Pundit was stunned by massive, and ever-hovering rock structures. And whether or not you are into geology and rocks, you might like to know that a couple of famous geologists (and presumably rockhounds) from way back were pipe smokers. There was John Muir, naturalist, botanist, writer, and author, who traipsed across the nation on foot! Make that a 1,000-mile trip afoot! You might recall that after viewing the phenomenal natural beauty stretched out before him in Yosemite, he convinced ol’ Rough Rider U.S. President Teddy Roosevelt to join him on a camping trip to see the land in all its geological beauty. Muir’s influence was instrumental in getting the land preserved. A natural loveliness we enjoy today, just as it was in Muir’s and Teddy’s time. And Muir had this to say of his early stint in the Sierra Nevada Mountains in the heart of what is now Yosemite National Park: When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe—from his book, “My First Summer in the Sierra,” 1911, page 110. John Muir was a pipe smoker. Then there is John Wesley Powell, a naturalist-geologist, like Muir. He was one of the first to float the upper Colorado River and to give the Grand Canyon its name. And from one of his observations of the canyon and its marvels: The wonders of the Grand Canyon cannot be adequately represented in symbols of speech, nor by speech itself. The resources of the graphic art are taxed beyond their powers in attempting to portray its features. Language and illustration combined must fail. John Wesley Powell too was a pipe smoker. He even swapped pipes with some of the Native Americans he encountered in the great canyonlands and elsewhere as he explored ranges and valleys. Now just hold on a bit more. I hear the boobirds in the audience trying to drown out the vistas. I see all the eye rolls. Those craggy Colorado mountains, the famous Rocky Mountains just right there nestled up to roads cut through immense solid rock structures, reminded Pundit of the beautiful sandblasts some of his pipes show off. I know, a stretch. But what is life without imagination and art? Imagine rock arrangements wrinkled in layers and stacks, lines etched into massive configurations that once reposed on the bottom of seas that once existed and have since disappeared. Returned and faded into geologic history once again. That’s right. Crags and even the look of plateau briars (that knobby rough rim of the bowl). For a better understanding of plateau shapes just head over to SmokingPipes.com. I can even hear now the loud chorus for someone to get out the stage hook on that one. But if you have ever had the opportunity to scrutinize those magnificent monoliths, you might arrive at a better understanding of the “craggy” aspect of a pipe’s outer sandblasted skin. Not to mention the pure natural beauty of our pipes and the artisan’s imagination. One of Pundit’s favorite pipe writers, Chuck Stanion at SmokingPipes.com has some wonderful stories on sandblasting. But those gigantic rocks of the ages have more lessons. They just didn’t appear in Colorado. They went through billions of years of emerging and disappearing. Oceans came, went, and returned. Some of the table mountains reminded me of a few of my Sherlock Holmes Petersons, especially the Holmes original with its calabash design. Up, flat, curved. Mark Irwin, another of the pipe world’s finest authors, has a delightful piece in his Peterson Pipe Notes about the Holmes and the history of the Peterson calabash. Which brings us to a final thought. Our pipes are born in nature as are we. We are all “hitched” together to everything else in the universe, as John Muir said. And master pipe artists provide us with a view of the past and present in their marvelous constructions. Layered, craggy, smooth, stained as is the earth in all of its past iterations. We enjoy such rich pleasure smoking these pieces of history with that fragrant leaf, tobacco in its many forms. Connected. Sometimes traveling a mile high into the great Rocky Mountains not only takes your breath away but gives us insight into other parts of our lives.
hi Brian and Kevin,
Is that canned clapping in the background? It’s Live!!!
Very interesting discussion on meeting and the founding of the show. 53 shows is a great achievement. I think I heard every one on time except one.
Large audience takes a great commitment.
Don Wilbanks – great ham radio operator and NEwsLine announcer.
Pipe shows are like battery chargers.
Thanks for the memories.
have to laugh on the “ship pipes”. YOu are right if you listen to it over and over.
Great show. The two person format worked extremely well. Best wishes looking forward to another year of the Pipe Magazine podcast. Thanks Guys!
All that needs to be said, from your loyal listeners is, “Thank You.”
It was a great show and I really enjoyed the stories. Keep up the good work guys!
This is just a wonderfully entertaining and informative show. I have listened to all of them, albeit as a download, and have marveled at how you have been able to keep the show fresh over time.
Loved listening to the “backstory” of the show. Kevin Godbee clotheshorse?? Who knew?
I just listened to the first anniversary show and I want to congratulate Kevin and Brian. I have listened to most of the shows since ithe show’s inception and I have enjoyed them all immensely. I would add that it was through the show that I first discovered 4noggins – a seller I was completely oblivious to before first listening to the show. Since then I have bought a ton of tobacco from Rich, so the advertising certainly does work. Many thanks to all involved in this wonderful show.
Episode 53 was enjoyable: two hosts for the price of one! Kevin and Brian play off of each other nicely. Sort of like Burns and Allen (I won’t say which was which).
Great show Brien & Kevin enjoyed listening to you guys talking about our favorite hobby pipe smoking and how you guys got the idea of the radio show into reality .
Kevin, I also enjoyed your Hendrix selection for the 4th of July. I find Hendrix version of the Star Spangled Banner a very fitting expression of the times. America was in quite a bit of turmoil.
Keep up the great work guys!
I am finally caught up. I just learned about the pipes magazine radio show about three weeks ago. I have listened to most of every episode over the past few weeks (podcast). I’ve smoked pipes hit and, mostly, miss for about 20 years, with many years in between. I have only been passionate for the last 7 months or so. I joined a pipe club through a local B&M (Up In Smoke- Lewisville, TX. Club meets 3rd Thursday at 7p.m.). One of your guests, Colin Rigsby, is the president, who also informed me about the radio show. I have learned so much from the club and your radio show. Thanks for the show, it delivers as advertised “sometimes educational…” Looking forward to more.
Correction on above. The pipe club that meets at Up In Smoke in Lewisville, TX is on the 3rd TUESDAY of every month at 7 p.m.