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  1. mikethompson

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    Found a nice pipe on etsy, and it made it all the way from Kansas to Detroit, then back to Kansas again.

    Huh? A couple more hours up the 401 and it would have made it to my hands.

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    I had a package going from the US to Copenhagen, Denmark (where I live), after arriving in Denmark it was forwarded to Tokyo (!) where apparantly it was rejected by japanese customs and returned to sender in the US...
    Second round went just fine

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    I've ordered stuff from the US that has moved through multiple distribution centres (including the 'lets keep sending it back to the same one every couple of days' that you've had) before the eventually get to either LA or NY for international transfer. The ones from NY then run the risk of getting lost in Dubai for weeks or even months before restarting their journeys. The ones shipping out of LAX usually make it without problems but one decided to go Honolulu, LA, Tokyo, LA, Honolulu, LA, Australia.

    Mind you, AusPost sometimes also add to the fun. I've about an hours drive from Sydney Airport, post obviously goes from the airport to AusPost's distribution centre for Sydney, from there to my local sorting office and to me. One packet from the US managed to visit every Australian Capital City at least once (Melbourne x3 and Brisbane x2). It even went though my local sorting office twice (first time it was sent back to Melbourne) before it eventually got to me. I contacted AusPost several times whilst this was going on and despite the evidence of the tracking they were in complete denial, Having checked various review boards it is not a frequent problem and most stuff goes direct, but once it starts the grand tour of Australia it seems to just keep going. AusPost even tried blaming the shipper for a bad address label - it was machine printed and completely correct. I later found out that if the sorting machine can't read a label (either 'cos the label is bad or the machine needs maintenance) it just sends it back some random main post hub and that this will happen a minimum of three times before a parcel will be redirected for human intervention!

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    The answer to your question is yes. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to their routing at times.

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    I got a nice email from etsy saying that my package has been delivered. So I guess the sender got the package back.

    So its no longer in the mail system, it has come full circle and was delivered back to the sender.

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    Recently I had some tobacco, ordered from SPC, go to Chicago then back down to SC and finally to me. I only live 2 hrs from SPC. I usually get my orders from SPC in one day. USPS definitely doesn't have their act together. Their tracking system is terrible.

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    I've been in the freight business all of my working life. All it takes is for some moron dock worker to out your box in the wrong cage and away it goes. Very easy to happen and does happen quite often, even with the scanning systems

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    Too many times. It's why I generally don't follow the tracking info. It would just drive me crazy(er).

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    I have had two recently, one where the package went from South Carolina to Denver, but then instead of going to Colorado Springs it went to San Jose, then back to Denver after 4 days, then to me the next day. Three weeks ago I had a pipe ship from CA and then sit at the regional distribution center for 6 days, then finally to me. In either case what was supposed to be 3-4 days ended up being over two weeks. USPS is pretty weak at times.

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  10. pianopuffer

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    Yep, the USPS actually "lost" a pipe coming from an artisan carver in the UK not that long ago and was never recovered. It was a mess, and and a loss for both of us.

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    I had a pipe leave Alberta, go through Vancouver (a big hub) down to the big center in San Fran for sorting, and this was a pipe destined for California, so all looked good. Then it showed up in Philadelphia, then Chicago, then France. I figured that was it but it made it into Germany, then booted back to the USA, went through San Fran again and was delivered like 2 days later.

    It truly is a mystery. Mostly it works, but occassionally it's a disaster.

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    Yup,

    USPS is hit or miss. You wonder why they lose money each year.

    Had a passport sent to the Korean Chicago Embassy for my E-2 teaching visa back in 2014. Registered and certified mail envelope for them to send it back. This was about 3 weeks before I was scheduled to leave abroad.

    Waited the typical 3-4 days it would take to send it back. Realistically I am only a 5 hour drive from Chicago bring from metropolitan Detroit.

    Didn't arrive after a week. Two weeks went by.

    Had to cancel my flight and explain to the school I'd be arriving late. Had to get an expedited passport made, send my new passport to the Embassy again and then drive a few days later to pick it up. Highways flooded on the way back and wasn't able to make it home until the next day.

    Made it to Korea a few weeks late. 9 months later, my father called me and said "Guess what came in the mail?" It was my passport that was lost for that long.

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    USPS lost a box full of aged tobacco I bought off a forum member a couple months ago. It got all the way here to Milwaukee, and the last update was "Out For Delivery" - and then it disappeared. No arrival scan, so it wasn't nabbed off our porch. It just got on the carrier's truck and then didn't get off. I talked to all our carriers, really gave them the full Larry David treatment, then I talked to their supervisors, etc. and then spent hours on the phone with USPS. It was a large flat-rate box, so only 50$ of insurance, and I paid way more than that. I'm _still_ following up, hoping they'll find it or cough up some more money. Some fine tins are probably lost forever - 15-year-old Telegraph Hill, 5- and 6-year-old FVF, Wessex Dark Flake, Solanis, Aylesbury, that other one that starts with "A" that I'll never get to try, Navigator, etc. God, I hope a big old box of long-lost goodness shows up unannounced on my porch some day like troyniss's passport. But I ain't holding my breath. Live and learn, right? All my other transactions and trades with forum folks have been nothing but pleasant. But I'm going to insist on insurance for anything big from now on.

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    Something like this happened to me the last few times I ordered tobacco from SPC, EBay, and some other various packages. USPS would mark the package “Delivered” on the tracking only it wouldn’t be there. My fear was always that they had been stolen off my porch, but they would either turn up next door...

    *Funny story about one of the next door deliveries, my neighbors there are in their 90’s and the gentleman can’t see so good, so he opened one package of tins was surprised and confused by the contents and then continued on and opened not one but two tins to figure out what it was before he realized they weren’t his! Poor guy brought them over to us and said “I’m so sorry I opened these.. they’re yours... but what are they!?” I asked him if he wanted to have a pipe with me but he declined said he was never much of a smoker haha*

    Back to the point.. or they’d show up down the street, not even the same house numbers that way. All with clear machine printed labels. A few times they didn’t turn up at the neighbors, I would call USPS after a day or two and be directed that the carrier still had the packages but they couldn’t track down the carrier, two days later the thing would show up while they were still “looking” all with them having no idea it had been delivered or where it had been in the mean time.

    Once I had two packages coming from the same place at the same time with the same delivery date (placed one order at SPC and then went back for more an hour later, I’m sure some of you can relate) both got “delivered” one actually made it, and one got “lost” only to show up days later. Had one packaged marked “Delivery refused package to large to fit in mail box” it was one tin in a bubble mailer... they’ve left 24x48 slabs of plywood on my porch not sure why the bubble mailer couldn’t find a home...

    They’ve left things out on the ground in the rain, my porch is covered and 1 foot from the mail box...

    Very frustrating, and clear that USPS has some serious issues around where I live too, or I thought maybe they just decided they don’t like me for some reason, until I talked to many others in my neighborhood that have all had very similar issues.

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    Troyniss & Trubka2 that is the worst feeling I really hope your ordeals work out like mine and they show up soon!

    I’ve been hesitant to use USPS; when ever I have a choice I’ve been paying the few bucks extra to use UPS or Fedex when I can

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    USPS has made sure a couple of my packages were well-traveled, but at least their tracking system now provides some interim updates. In the wayback, a FedEx or UPS tracking number worked the way it does now. It regularly reported where your package was and when it would arrive.

    USPS tracking numbers, on the other hand, would provide an initial "shipped" entry showing the shipping location. Then, nothing. The package would arrive at a reasonable interval, and then, as soon as it was marked delivered, the details of its journey would be populated in the tracking log. "Two days ago, it was here. Yesterday, it arrived in this other city."

    Well, I don't care now.

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    I'm not even looking at the picture you provided I'm just going to say this... USPS must be drinking the cleaning fluid.

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    I try never to use USPS if possible. They leave packages on my front step in the rain/snow when the specific delivery instructions tell them to leave it on the side porch of my house.

    Not surprised that the Detroit office sent your package back to the original sender. Totally clueless.

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    I never use Certified mail because the few times I have used it, the mail disappeared. Nothing Certified ever made it to its destination. After a number of packages were delivered to the wrong address I decided to make it a condition that every package sent to me needs to be signed for. That way, the carrier actually has to pay some attention to what he or she is doing. No further problems since then.

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    This is all part of the USPS' new Deluxe Tobacco Aging Service, designed to provide you with a greater smoking experience, free of charge.

    I once came home to find an antique surplus rifle leaning (in a cardboard box) against my door jamb. I was both excited and horrified.

    Anything manufactured before 1899 is considered by the fed to be "antique" and requires no FFL transfer, but that package still should have required a signature.

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    I've contacted AusPost on a couple of occasions trying to track packages from the US (both were tobacco) which USPS tracking indicated had arrived in Sydney and been handed over to AusPost. AusPost categorically stated they had not arrived but, get this, they also told me that USPS tracking is 'predictive' and not always based on scanning of the parcels, Basically put, it seems that in many instances USPS update their tracking to show where the parcel should be based on the time since they last actually knew where it was! So for example after a parcel arrives at LAX for international transfer they will then update their tracking a few days later to show it's in Australia even though it may still be in LAX waiting for space on a flight!

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    Well it seems like some of you have some horror stories to share!

    The strange thing is, its not like the package is just lost in the system. The package made it to Detroit where it was opened by US Customs, and then returned to sender. I'm not sure why US Customs is opening outgoing packages, but it never made it on Canadian soil.

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    I ship/receive a lot of pipes. I use USPS exclusively. With over 300 packages, I can count tracking/routing issues on one hand. So, that's a pretty good success ratio for about $4 per package. The majority of those are shipping via First Class. Two of the maybe six issues I've had have been shipping Priority to NYC. Both successful, but delayed two days or so at the hub.

    European shipping via USPS (International Priority had been flawless up to a few months ago, US Customs returned to me a "Tobacco Pipe" they said was "tobacco")

    Steve F mails a ton more packages than I but I bet he would have a similar comment.

    IF they do lose an "insured" package (one for me), thats another whole can of worms that went to my US Senator without resolution. USPS does answer to no one.

    Al

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    I was a "package handler" at UPS for 2 years in college. There were about 7 or 8 pup-trailers backed up to the conveyor belt, each going to a different distribution center. The guys on the line are sorting these by sight using zip codes and throwing them onto the rollers. Since it's part time night work, most of the guys have already put in 8 hours that day at their first job. Or they farm, and do this for health insurance. Try keeping a tired monkey with a brain capable of calculus focused on zip codes for 5 hours. He'll mispick a few packages in every thousand, and off they go to Omaha, Oklahoma City, Chicago, Denver, Sioux Falls, etc. Where the process will be reapeted (maybe twice) before it lands on a package car to your doorstep.

    Blue Bunny Ice Cream out of Le Mars, Iowa used to be a UPS client. Until one day they shipped a carton of ice cream next-day-air. It got picked to the wrong trailer; it never made it to New York City, where a studio, a director, and talent were already booked to shoot a television ad. No ice cream, no ad. A very expensive mistake, for which they switched to Fed-Ex (where a different group of tired guys will doubtless mis-sort packages to whole new cities!)

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    Answer to question on post title: Yes.

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    Last week I had two boxes get to the local main hub in my city, get marked as return to sender , and then stop tracking. I went to talk with the “shipping supervisor “ because my local usps said the boxes were there according to tracking . The super at the main hub couldn’t find them but assured me he would call the next day with an explanation. I’m still waiting ...
    Luckily it wasn’t any rare blends and I was able to send out new boxes to make the trades complete but that was a loss of a few hundred dollars .

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    Up to this day and during all my adult life I never have had any misfortune neither with USPS nor UPS, be it the First Class or Priority International, Supersaver or whatsover,all packaged were delivered here in Finland EU ) safe&sound nonethless,once package lands on our soil then, as a rule,thing are getting to go turtle-like slow

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    I'm currently waiting on a delivery which is starting its journey with USPS. It seems to be doing a grand tour of the US at the moment.

    25-Jul. Package sets off from Loma Linda, CA
    26-Jul. Arrives and departs San Bernadino, CA
    27-Jul. Arrives LA 90051
    Travels a short distance to LA 90052
    Then returns to LA 90051
    Then to Torrence (LA 90505)
    Then to Rancho Dominguez (which is not a long way from Torrence!)

    I was then expecting next movement to be arrival at LAX for transshipment to Australia; but, no...

    2-Aug. Arrives in Chicago International Distribution Centre

    All very puzzling but I suppose in terms of postage costs it represents good value for money just in miles traveled and time taken!

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    My last order from Watch City left Massachusetts and traveled to Macon, Georgia before finding it's way to me in Pennsylvania!

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    I had a package going from the US to Copenhagen, Denmark (where I live), after arriving in Denmark it was forwarded to Tokyo (!) where apparantly it was rejected by japanese customs and returned to sender in the US...
    Second round went just fine

    Depending on which way it was routed from Tokyo to Copenhagen, you may have a pipe that's been around the world!

    Darn, just reread and see it went East from Tokyo.....

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    Well the pipe finally made it to me! Second time is the charm I guess.

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    While USPS is not perfect it's still better than Fed-Ex

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    On what series of incidents do you base that statement?

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    Let’s see that pipe mike

    Keep calm...smoke a pipe.
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    Years ago I was buying Cuban cigars from Stagnetto in Gibralter. A box went missing and after a few weeks they sent me a replacement. 8 months later the box showed up. I contacted Stagnetto and they couldn't believe it showed up. They told me to keep it free of charge even though the cigars seemed fine humidity wise.

    My latest issues with UPS is they keep leaving my packages at my neighbors to the lest and the right of me. My local UPS guy is a moron.

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    I've had so many problems with USPS here that I could write a book on their general incompetence. One package sent from NY went straight to Florida, then came to Raleigh, NC, sent to my town, then sent back to Florida, sent back here, then sent to another city, then back here and I finally got it. I could go on and on with stories like that, including having packages opened and the contents stolen.

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    It happened to me only once - Some tobacco I bought from a forum member was flipping back and forth for 2 weeks or so, before it was eventually delivered.

    Looking at this got me scared ... I am expecting a pipe which will be mailed tomorrow. I am going on a vacation on Friday, and I will put a hold mail from Sat, so any issues and the pipe may be lost! And it’s an old pipe with lots of pedigree!

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