The Dying Art of Manliness.

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necron99

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Many of you older gents will relate, but sadly many of you young fellas may not. I hope however to inspire those of you who desire to refine the depth of your character, and spark a smile and memory to those of you who remember.

There was a day when a man was defined by the quality of his character and of his work. A man was honest, tough but gentle, strength under control, he used his mind and his hands. He could sharpen a pocket knife, change a tire, fix his own leaky faucet, and wire in an electric outlet. Men could tie a lure for fishing, handle a gun safely with out 3 safety mechanisms, knew how to pour a beer, he could work with his hands and read a book. It seems more and more these days that the younger guys call the plumber, electrician, triple A, or buy kitchy gadgets to do things or to avoid doing things.

Now the young fellas here on this forum are a bit different and give me some hope. But I challenge you guys don't seek the gadgetry to make a half assed decent job of something that with some practice can be done with excellence. Learn to sharpen your pocket knife, don't buy some crap that only does a half job of it or some knife that is supposed to never dull, that knife will get dull it will just never get sharp again. Being tough don't mean being brutish or stupid. It just means ya keep going when thing get difficult.

Anyway take it for what it is. If ya like something here then keep it if not then toss it out.

 
Dec 24, 2012
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He could sharpen a pocket knife
I don't own a pocket knife, but if I did, I wouldn't have a clue how to sharpen it when I needed to whittle something or whatnot. Aren't there stores that do that kind of thing?
change a tire
I have never changed one. I always call Audi Roadside Assistance and they come out, change my tire, and I am sure they would also sharpen my pocket knife if I had one and asked them for help. My wife says that making this call is a clear and decisive display of leadership, which is an essential quality of manhood. No?
fix his own leaky faucet, and wire in an electric outlet
Have no idea how a faucet works and I have strict orders from the wife never to touch anything electrical again since the . . . er . . . "incident".
Men could tie a lure for fishing, handle a gun safely with out 3 safety mechanisms
Not a fishing guy here. There is a very fine line between fishing and standing there looking stupid, and that is a chasm I have never been able to bridge. I have shot water pistols at the carnival though, and I think I did it in a reasonably safe manner.
knew how to pour a beer
When you say "pour" do you mean in a glass? Or down your throat? Not sure how to do the former, but I am an acknowledged expert in decanting and serving pretty much any vintage of Romanée-Conti Grand Cru. Does that count?
he could work with his hands and read a book
Phew! The wife says I am . . . er . . . very skilled with my hands. And I spend at least half my day reading books. Do I get a man card? Or is that pocket knifey thing an absolute requirement?

 

blueeyedogre

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Oct 17, 2013
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I hunt bear with a Swiss Army knife. I fish using nothing but a net and a hard stare. I hammer in nails using my fist. The last steak I ate still had hooves and horns! Do I qualify as a "manly man"?

 

Perique

Lifer
Sep 20, 2011
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handle a gun safely with out 3 safety mechanisms
You've just discounted the 1911...
Regardless, I understand what you're trying to say. This is the age of metrosexualized, specialist man. Don't try to change them. Just raise your children well. They'll need all the strength they can acquire.

 

cmdrmcbragg

Lifer
Jul 29, 2013
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+1 blueeyedogre
I'm 28 and throughout my childhood learned to:
Have honesty

Take responsibility for my actions and choices

Handle firearms safely (own three handguns still)

Select, season and grill a medium-rare steak (same goes for other meat, which are lesser meats compared to steak)

Read novels (I was reading adult novels at 9 because I've always accepted an intellectual challenge)

Clean a house, the RIGHT way (Vacuum, shampoo carpets, clean hardwood floors, polish furniture)

Wash my own clothes

Fix a bicycle

Sewing

Troubleshoot electronics

Drive a tractor

Drive a 5-speed manual vehicle (Though I am not good with parking trucks)

Change tires, spark plugs, lights, fluids (I leave major stuff otherwise to professionals)
Since becoming an adult (and joining the Navy):
Pick up women

Pay strippers appropriately

Tip your bartender and waiter/waitress

Pay my bills

Follow orders, even if I don't like them or agree with them

Take my lumps

Basic first aid

Painting (I've helped paint a ship three times including interior spaces)

Further troubleshooting of electronics and also people

Ironing clothes

Plant a garden and care for it

Select cigars, craft beer and top shelf liquor

Deal with a woman (and everyone is right, that learning process is never over)

Care for children

... Pack a pipe

 

papipeguy

Lifer
Jul 31, 2010
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Bethlehem, Pa.
I appreciate necron's points. I learned how to do those things from necessity and found that most of those skills/chores were fun to do. Things do change though. I can change a tire but I'll be damned if I can find where my battery is under the hood. I admit that nowadays I'm prone to hire people to do the things that I once did. I look at it as the privilege of age, and the ability to pay for other's expertise.

I still have hope and faith in the younger generation. We all should because they're our only bet. They'll come through because they have to and, once again, necessity will require it.

 

decigar

Starting to Get Obsessed
May 2, 2013
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Not sure if this applies but i was listening to news radio where they said women are graduating at a higher rate from college and law school than men. Assuming you earn more with a college and/or law degree than not having one. There is a whole generation of young men who will earn less than women their age. Not saying salary is the only measure of a man but it is one. Wonder whats gonna happen if the education gap continues to widen in terms of social interaction between men and women.
As for "gadgets" im sure some1 once said i dont see a need for that new gadget called electricity.
Times change, people hopefully evolve.

 

blueeyedogre

Lifer
Oct 17, 2013
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In true honesty I do sharpen my own knives, in fact I made a few of the knives myself. I've proudly served my country and part of that was volunteering at the local cadet corp teaching firearm safety to young folk. I am in the middle of restoring a 1945 International since I finished rebuilding my 1978 Goldwing. I used to do home restorations for a living, I now am management at a large construction company. I do all the work on my truck, I do my own yard work, I cook, sew, and clean.

That being said I look back at my father (a dry cleaner/ tailor), his father (tailor/farmer) and his uncles (farmers) and by no means do I hold myself in their level of manliness. My lovely wife is a nurse's aide in a seniors home and hearing some of the daily things she deals with I have no problem saying she has me beat hands down. That woman deals with things I could never do.

 
A little camping tip that my dad taught me: Bring a candy bar, and put it under one of the tents along the campground's perimeter. That way, if there is a bear that is going to rampage the campground, he'll hit that "other" tent first. Then we can rest assured all night, with a sensitive ear, listening for the screams and carnage to warn us of the bears. So far, so good. :puffy:

 

philobeddoe

Lifer
Oct 31, 2011
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Why is it, that men who earn their living by intellectual means and make enough money to pay others to handle physically laborious tasks are never considered manly men? For some reason only those who jump in and get dirty per se, are manly enough. There seems to be a "blue collar bias" against those who have honed their minds and their acumen instead of their knives! I think there is room for many more definitions of tough and manly than the media allows. The idea that the only really "manly men" are guys who could fill in for the cast of Duck Dynasty saddens me greatly. I don't think you would have found Christopher Hitchens, Kurt Vonnegut, James Galway or even Lemmy under the kitchen sink fixing a leak or wiring in a dimmer switch, yet they all seem perfectly "manly" to me. I so tire of these threads that assert that anyone who does not fit into some Butch stereotype is a pussy, doomed to die at the first sign of distress or hardship.

 

necron99

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 4, 2014
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Context fellas. Learning to be well rounded. Learning to use both mind and hands. Nothing wrong with the writer, lawyer, executive and such. Its good to be able to do these things even if you prefer to pay others to do it. And the blue collar fella should also learn to read and understand and appreciate that which is out side of the sweat of the brow as it were. My examples are just examples. Not that sharpening a knife is anything great in and of its self, its a skill that requires patients. A white collared fella who does a good job still does a good job . Its very fulfilling to learn to do things.

 

derfargin

Lifer
Mar 3, 2014
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@necron88
You gotta hand it to the gents, some of the follow-ups are funny as hell.
I think lots here, have seen many posts such as yours, and have not choice but to laugh at some of the antiquated stylings. I think a great "manly" quality is the ability to handle yourself, and take care of your family. Be it, fixing an electrical outlet, or having the sense to know when it's time to bring in a professional to do it. Sure you can impress the shit out of your little lady by doing it yourself, but make sure you do it correctly, because when the house goes up like a roman candle because of.....Her perspective might change some.

 

lostandfound

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 30, 2011
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Careful Necron, there are woman prowling these boards, and they will scarcely tolerate any talk of "manliness", "masculinity", or "manhood".
Why is it, that men who earn their living by intellectual means and make enough money to pay others to handle physically laborious tasks are never considered manly men?
On the contrary philobeddoe, I consider myself THE MANLIEST OF ALL MEN. He who's superior intellect can not be surpassed by any mere mortal who stands before him... and yet, I can manage to put the spare tire on my car, should I happen to get a flat, and have one to "spare". :wink:
Jeez... you'd think Necron called some of you fellas out by name. :roll:

 
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