Smoking shown in children's books in past decades
Children's stories used to be so much better. Anybody remember this picture?
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." -Mark Twain-
"A pipe helps a wise man to think and gives a fool something to put in his mouth" -Trischman's Paradox-
"Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim;...but I discipline my body and make it my slave." -1Cor 9-
Curious George books were awesome when I was a wee lad. My parents bought them for me. I'm not at all surprised to see George smoking. First he is curious, and when these were written (though I don't know exactly when) the world was way different than it is today.
For the love of all that is sacred, please do not microwave your tobacco.
I. Unacceptable for Children: Curious George smoking a pipe.
II. Acceptable for Children: Hansel and Gretal pushing a witch into an oven and listening to her scream as she roasts to death.
I'm not a proponent of censorship in any matter. I read both stories as a child. But it seems Hansel and Gretel may be a bit more psychologically damaging than George puffing a pipe. Go figure.
"It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black." - Nigel Tufnel, Spinal Tap
And note that George is smoking a pipe, rather than a cigarette.
how do you guys thinks about this ?
oops, sorry for the double post
lol- and yes i did actually "lol" at Cajunguy's post
i think many of the brother's Grimm tales are damaging too:
1. Hansel and Gretel: aside from condoning the notion of burning witches alive, how often have you ever been inside a house that you could EAT? if that doesnt mess with kids' heads nothing will
2. Little Red Riding Hood: where to begin? Themes of paedophilia, granny battering AND rampant bloodshed to say nothing of killing an endangered animal
3. Rumplestiltskin & Rapunzel: Reinforces negative gender stereotypes (women spinning etc.)
yeh, lets have more calm, contemplative pipe smoking in kids books rather than the gorefest of yesteryear!
I'm convinced that exposure to all of it is developmentally beneficial. Life is not all sunshine and rainbows and one must be exposed to the dark side to truly understand the light.
BBQ witches are tastier than roasted witches. The Lone Ranger show on 50s TV was super violent. Someone would put a bullet in a miners head close range for a nugget of gold. I really loved that show. Curious George really has that pipe smoking. Tongue burn lil buddy.
+1 on the BBQ
And maybe George is smoking a new Carey Magic Inch. I don't have one, but they're supposed to be very cool smokers...
...and one must be exposed to the dark side to truly understand the light.
Are you suggesting that Curious George was smoking latakia?
George looks like he just borrowed his Uncles (Monkeys Uncle) & is smoking a canadian volcano . Monkeys have always preferred a pinch of Latakia. The larger primates enjoyPerique. They go through a lot of stems. Phillip, I just have to ask, have you ever set that fantastic beard on fire while smokin???
And I can't forget The Hobbit!
Whatever he is smoking, it sure does look like he is enjoying it. I'm pretty sure I have struck that very same pose a few times while having one of those perfect smokes.
Okay, the hobbit pipe is pretty awesome!!
My kids get a kick out of the Night Before Christmas Book because it shows Santa smoking a pipe and even mentions it on that page.
By the eternal! There is a man whose form should be cast in deathless bronze and the statue placed in every college in the land. It is not book-learning young men need, nor instruction about this and that, but a stiffening of the vertebrae which will cause them to be loyal to a trust, to act promptly, concentrate their energies; do the thing - "carry a message to Garcia!" Elbert Hubbard "A Message to Garcia" 1899
Babar the Elephant.
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It seems that characters that needed to display maturity were drawn smoking a pipe.
Well not books but we watch Yogi the bear and the Pink panther cartoons and both have pipe smokers in them. Cant seem to find pics on line though.
Think slow, act fast.
Can't forget this guy
Not a pipe but it always come to mind.
Pipes and guns at the same time:
From Cowboy Andy, 1959
Phillip, I just have to ask, have you ever set that fantastic beard on fire while smokin???
No, but you can see why I like longer pipes.
Im totally split on the whole softer and kinder words. So what if a witch gets whats good for her and the "good guys" win. I grew up in a time (not too many years ago either) when there was lead in the paint and we had Yard Darts to thow in the yard. I remember my mom driving the car while I stood up in the seat. It dont bother me to see a cartoon character smoking a pipe. Have you looked at some of the crazy crap cartoons on the air today? Maybe I just miss the good old days.
I agree with you bailey331. We are in a time of change and it doesn't seem that it's for the positive. Regulations and laws that are enacted to "make things safer" are stifling people's ability to think for themselves, not to mention their freedoms. Whoever thinks that all that is "new" is an improvement of the past, needs to reevaluate their thinking.
Where are the story books of the past? My grandma used to read me many stories from way back when and I realized that nowadays you just see furry animals in books. No pipes or tattoos on the characters...
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."
Benjamin Bunny (Beatrix Potter)
Haddock (From Tintin)
And well, Guy Fawkes (before the V of Vendetta), was usually represented with a clay pipe...
A few postcards from way back on a similar theme:
The caption reads: "Just like father, only without tobacco"
"I bring you these, because I love you so much"
Wow! Carlosviet, you are the master of finding pipe smoking characters. Dukdalf, I've just started collecting a few antique postcards myself!
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