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Orlik Billiard Stuck Stem Inner-Tube

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    Got a new Orlik, has the inner tube, stem is stuck tight as fuck. Tried the freezer trick, any suggestions really nice pipe

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    This pipe is NEW as in never used, I'm sure the stem hasn't been removed ever, and it's a Lucite stem or plastic whatever

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    Sometimes after a good couple bowls back to back, my stems get loose. Only after drying completely do they tighten back up.

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    I need to get it unscrewed to remove the inner tube and clean the pipe first

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    You can clean without taking apart, then smoke it as DidiMod suggests.

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    I like to give a pipe that's been who knows where for 60 years a very thorough cleaning before putting it my mouth. More thorough than can be done without removing it. It also stuck with the stem at an angle now

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    So the pipe is New old stock?

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    Yea.....

    It seems the stem being stuck has to do with the inner tube. Does anyone have experience with a stuck aluminum tube pipe? Perhaps a Dunhill or Punto Oro or another Orlik?

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    I could've have given it a surface cleaning and tried to smoke it to loosen it up but the stem is stuck cockeyed

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    Try running very hot water through the bowl and out the stem.....

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    jp thank you for the suggestion. Is it safe for the briar? I always avoid getting briar to wet aside from the rain. What do you think the hot water will do? Any other methods besides the pencil which I don't think would do anything here

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    What about oregano oil down the stem?

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    Yes, water is completely safe for briar unless there's a crack or fissure. And of course, no soaking! Hopefully the heat and moisture will loosen the hold. Good luck!

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    No luck still stuck any other options

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    Sorry for your situation, but no, nothing more than's been discussed.

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    Grain alcohol soak. Go ahead and fill bowl with salt or cotton balls, fill with etoh and let it sit for an hour or so.

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    You could also try carefully walking with hairdryer and then cool in freezer.

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    Aquadoc, what would the alcohol soak do?

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    Organic substances will not, for the most part, dissolve in H2O. But they will dissolve in EtOH. Balsam, resins, saps, sugars, esters, etc. will readily dissolve in EtOH. A possible issue is that some sap/resin/oils leached out over time and are acting as a light glue, holding the tube and stem together with the shank. Maybe. Adding the grain may be enough to dissolve the "glue" enough to loosen its grip. My 2 nos Dublins have a tube and were stuck. Alcohol worked a charm but ymmv and it may be a waste of time. Is there a possible downside to adding the alcohol?

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    Thanks I'll give that a try!

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    Hope it helps!

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    I wonder if there are some Dunhill collectors who have had this problem with NOS inner tube pipes. Or is it helpful to refridgerate/ thaw repeatedly

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    Just put a little muscle into it and twist it out........ or get someone who can.

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    I'm trying pretty hard beefeater but worried the tenon will snap, I've snapped tenons this way before

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    I second the alcohol soak.

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    Any luck?

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    I'm trying to figure out a way to pour rubbing alcohol into the bowl so it gets into the draft hole on the sides of the aluminum tube. Don't want to soak the bowl coating more than I have to

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    Saturate a pipe cleaner with the alcohol, apply, repeat a few times over a day or so.

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    Also, apply a thin coat of Vaseline to the finish to protect it. I doubt it will hurt and it might protect it from incidental over flow. Just a pain to work with....

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    jp, but since its an aluminum tube, the alcohol wouldn't be reaching the tenon at all

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    But it could be the tube sticking in the airway, no? Worth a try, i'd guess.

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    You could always try applying a flame briefly to the inner tube so as it expands enough to free itself.

    Have done this myself and it worked first time!

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    I have had the same problem with an unused old stock Orlik shape 17 with a tube.
    I put it in the freezer,but was to impapient so the tenon broke.

    Just take your time.

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    Jp yeah I think it might be the tube but wouldnt the alcohol only be touching the inside of the tube. Still worth a try for sure

    Manman, how can I apply flame to the tube?

    Jensen, what do you think I should do?

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    I would put it in the freezer one more time and be patient

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    Any resolution to this??

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    You could try an isopropyl alcohol soaked cleaner, inserted, hopefully all the way into the bowl.
    Then, use an eye-dropper to put some more alcohol in the bowl. perhaps the cleaner will wick it up into the aluminum tube area.
    The thing to avoid is alcohol seeping out between the tenon and stem, that ruin the finish, so you'd have to proceed carefully.
    I seriously doubt the sticking stem is because of the aluminum tube, but the alcohol would also free up the stem.
    As long as no alcohol is on the finish, you won't do the bowl any harm.

    Al

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    No, I gave up for a while. I have a new freezer that has a super cold setting so I am going to give it try for an hour in there

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    "Son, back in my day we couldn't afford fancy Dunhills and whatnot. One time, we put an Orlik the freezer for 9 months just so we could get the stem unstuck."

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