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  1. jonesing

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    Like gravity, tax day and everyone's ultimate demise there are certain truths of the universe that are simply absolute. No arguments. No flexibility. They simply are.

    The same is apparently true in the world of tobaccoreviews.com.

    Here are some I've learned.

    1) Every bowl that everyone but me smokes results in a "fine gray ash". Weird. Mine usually end with some brown stuff. If it was a good bowl the brown stuff is fairly dry.

    2) It is impossible to review a McClellan blend without the use of the word ketchup.

    4) It is equally impossible to discuss blends form either Gawith house without using the term "soapy".

    5) Aromatics are always "cloying" and "goopy", unless you're a fan of aromatics in which case you apologetically admit to liking things that taste good.

    6)Apparently when others open a tin they are always "greeted" in some way. Never happens to me. But it would be nice sometime. "Hey Jonesing! How are ya man? It's me a ribbon cut blend that smells like latakia!"

    7) There is simply nothing even approaching an equivalent to a blend produced by Arthur Dunhill. Really everything else is just rubbish. Rumor has it Mr. Dunhill's bowel movements smelled of lilac and heather.

    Everyone and I mean everyone, is on a first name basis with Greg Pease, and Craig Tarler.

    I won't see any communication directed to me here. I'm no longer active at this forum.
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    L...O...freaking L. 10/10.

    As a beginner I thought tobacco reviews would be a great repository for learning what, I might like, but with in 2 months I knew most reviews were total junk. At first I was feeling down cause I could never smoke to the bottom of one light everytime and that every bowl wasn't as cool and dry as the last.

    I'm also concerned that no tobacco produced after my highschool graduation would ever be worth the 10 bucks it costs. Also if it's a pease blend it's not bad or somethig you just don't prefer...it's really a 4 star blend that just needs age.

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    9} Dunhill and Peterson never made a bad pipe they are all perfecto .

    “There was an awful suspicion in my mind that I'd finally gone over the hump, and the worst thing about it was that I didn't feel tragic at all, but only weary, and sort of comfortably detached.”
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    YES!

    I forgot that both of those.

    The Pease thing is hilarious. I'm pretty sure GL Pease could put lawn clippings, alflafa, and a pinch of donkey shit in a tin and people would rave about his "dark genius".

    Greg (Hell I'll be on a first name basis too) wrote a blog about a guy who sent him a sample to identify and review. Pease didn't much like it but he was able to identify the basic components. Turned out to be a couple year old Odyssey. Pease didn't like his own blend...after aging! Not to say I don't' like some of his blends. He's an outstanding blender. But the whole idol worship thing is pretty funny sometimes.

    And Igloo I totally agree. Marty Pulver says it best. Dunhill and Peterson pipes are simply beyond bad reviews similar to some restaurants that might have avg. food but get 4 stars based just on the name.

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    lol that is hilarious.

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    Rick, I agree with 95% of what you said... I like aromatics... so that was the 5%... I rely on tobaccoreviews.com only, I repeate ONLY to see what others rate brands at... NOTHING else...!

    I have noticed that some of the 4 stars suck donkey D#@K while most of the 2 stars are good... my .005 cents worth!

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    Sounds liek we agree 100%. I wasn't bagging aros. Actually the opposite. Many of the reviewers would rather admit to sodomizing farm animals than to actually enjoying an aromatic.

    I like you enjoy some aromatics. Oh, and I would never admit to barn yard "relations".

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    This is the best thread I have ever read in my life!

    You guys have no idea how happy you just made me. LMFAO!

    Drinks for everyone on me!

    I am off to see Mr. Tarlar in person in just a few. I'll be seeing Mrs. Tarlar and Mr. Chris Tarlar too.

    Thank you Mr. Jonesing!

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    What! Peterson makes Bad Pipes? Say it ain't so!

    Cloying, gloopy aromatics? I just had my first bowl of Peterson's Special Reserve 2010 and enjoyed it. I did not find it overly sweet and it did not leave a glob of dottle in my pipe.

    I do agree Dunghill makes bad pipes though.

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    I'm surprised there's no mention of that, wait, what's it called, oh yeah, "BALKAN SOBRANIE 75niiiiiiiiiine".

    Why the hell does everybody keep going on about it? OK it might have been good, but I bet it tastes similar if not damn near the same as loads of other newer blends, but those, oh no, "those are NO WAY NEAR as good as Balkan Sobranie, which I got to smoke and you didn't because I'm a way better pipe smoker, and older, and way smarter, and I know Craig Pease and Greg Tarler and YOU DON'T because you're not as good as me."

    By the way, that's meant to be sarcasm.

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    Oh yeah. so true.

    I've been reading a bunch of balkan blend reviews and i swear every single one says...."This is no Balkan Sobraine"..."while certainly no Balkan Sobraine.." yadda yadda yadda.

    Yeah well I bet Balkan Sobraine was no Balkan Supreme either hot shot.

    I picture some of these guys sitting at home mourning the advent of the touch tone telephone.

    "While clearly lacking the character of the dial telephonic device...this new fangled gizmo....."

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    Hahahaha yeah that sounds about right.

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    Funny thread, I love it!

    Another one to add to the list is;
    "I HATE aromatics and I don't smoke them, but for some reason I decided to smoke this one so that I could look all high and mighty with my review and bashing of it. Here is my review of "whatever aro blend". It is horrible and is like a flamethrower in my mouth. After I finished the bowl, my mouth felt like someone had set off napalm in it. I would throw it away, but I am afraid of what it would do to the environment. I wish that there was a way that I could put negative stars, but 1 star is the least that I can give this blend. STAY AWAY! Now I happily return back to my Nectar of the Gods English Blends."

    On a side note; I HAVE smoked Balkan Sobranie and while it was a very good and tasty blend, there are quite a lot of blends available today that, IMO, are just as good and quite a few of them even surpass it. It has just acquired some sort of legendary status. I guess that the people who are willing to pay $300+ a tin for it have to justify it to themselves someway.

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    I'm very happy to see that I'm not an idiot for thinking pretty much all of this lol. I have come to think that some of the reviews that the people didn't even try the blend because they are so far off. I just don't understand why aro's are so frowned upon. Hell I like all types of tobaccos don't say I'm a new pipe smoker just because I enjoy a flavorful bowl occasionally. Might be a rant but I got bashed a bit for writing a review on a aro I liked and a couple thought it was bad lol.

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    I've never understood the whole aromatics smoke hot argument...so much of it has to do with the smoker. Just chill out. It's a pipe not a milkshake. I've burnt up my mouth as bad with the non-aro's as I have with really moist aros.

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    Brilliant observations jonesing! Cloying is hands down to me the most annoying one! I think its one of those Seradism from when he did the P&T reviews that everyone copies. I managed to get through 30 years of pipe smoking without ever thinking of using 'cloying' to describe a blend.

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    Great observations, Rick.
    Oh, and let's not forget the reviews that build on the symphony metaphor: Virginias establish a theme; a pianissimo of perique the variations... delicate arpeggios underscored by deep, resonant tones. The coda is ...

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    Finally I don't feel like a fool for liking Mixture #79. I do like aro's, I do, I do,I do, I do!!!!

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    At my local B&M, I just stick my nose in the jar.
    If it smells nice to me I'll try it.
    If it doesn't, I don't.

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    Hey wait a minute that jcohio person has written a few ok reviews if I do say so myself...LOL!

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    Actually, I use the word cloying quite a bit in my reviews. It is the correct word to use when something tastes really sweet and heavy on the taste buds. I use it to describe when a blend is really sweet and the sweetness doesn't lighten up during the smoke and by the end of the smoke your taste buds are just saturated and assaulted by too much of it.

    Here are the definitions of the word:
    cloy·ing [kloi-ing]
    –adjective
    1.
    causing or tending to cause disgust or aversion through excess: a perfume of cloying sweetness.
    2.
    overly ingratiating or sentimental.

    More:
    cloy [kloi]
    –verb (used with object)
    1.
    to weary by an excess of food, sweetness, pleasure, etc.; surfeit; satiate.
    –verb (used without object)
    2.
    to become uninteresting or distasteful through overabundance: A diet of cake and candy soon cloys.

    cloy (kloi)
    v. cloyed , cloy·ing , cloys

    v. tr.
    To cause distaste or disgust by supplying with too much of something originally pleasant, especially something rich or sweet; surfeit.
    v. intr.
    To be too filling, rich, or sweet.

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    While I agree in part of the above assessment of tobaccoreviews.com, the real issue is,you never know what the reviewers baseline is. If I don't know that he finds SG XXX Rope sort of mild, and he says, "Irish Flake is mild tobacco for an all day smoke" I will be sorely disappointed with the end result.

    Yes there are bandwagon jumpers, and it also seems that, according to most reviewers on that site, GL Pease can do no wrong (although I have yet to try one I like for the cash required). I use it as a baseline setter, and to be sure that something is not absolute crap in a can.

    I'm not as broadfaced as my avatar implies...
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    HAHAHA Bob I think I went to the same site just to make sure that I was think of the correct term

    Shannonh, for the most part I do the same by If there is a new blend I see what the gist of it is.

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    Hee hee Bob.

    I saw it in your review today.

    It's a fine word and quite descriptive. But on TR some people don't seem to be able to even write an aro review without using the word.

    And I agree Shannon TR is a good way to learn and make educated decisions about what you buy and try.

    I love the site. In fact I'm a TR junkie. Still amusing though.

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    The word cloying is also used in wine reviews. That is where I learned it, from the guy that wrote the articles in our wine section here. Then I forgot it and re-learned it from Bob.

    Yes, while it has been entertaining to make fun of TR.com, and many of the comments and observations are true, they really are a great resource site, and I check them out too.

    When I am doing a review here, I write the review first without looking at anyone else's review so I am not influenced. When I finish my review, then I go over there to see what others wrote.

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    Ha!! I been away to long. You guys crack me up. It's all true though. I do the same Kevin, I never read about a blend on TR.com until I smoke it first.

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    I have to admit to being at a loss for ever relating to a burning tobacco as sweet. Full, rich, bitter, smokey, peppery, floral, soapy, spicy, light, creamy, foul - these are all words I've used to describe tobaccos but never sweet. What tobaccos do you guys think are really sweet?

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    Strangely enough I find latakia sweet.

    VA is in theory the seetest with the highest sugar content typically. But VA is more earthy or maybe sweet sour fruity or something.

    I've figured out though that latakia just hits my sweet spot and I fear I may be a full on latakia head in the making. In my English blend smoke off the less latakia the less I really taste what I'm after.

    I'm weird this way I think. I don't taste smoky with latakia more like toasted marshmallow if I may use a food reference in my own thread teasing TR reviews.

    It's consistent with my roll your own tastes. When I smoke a cigarette it's almost always a halfzware which is fire cured Kentucky with VA (about half and half thus Halfzware) and the fire cured tastes sweet rather than smoky to me.

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    There's a difference between tastes and aromas though. The taste is the physical effect it has on your mouth, whilst the aromas are the flavours you interpret. So you couldn't really put 'sweet', 'sour', 'bitter' and 'peppery' together like that (peppery being an aroma, not taste). Hold your nose while smoking, see what happens.

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    Hell I dunno Fur. I just smoke the stuff and either like it or don't.

    I thought this pretty funny though.....

    I had a bowl of PS Proper English for breakfast and it honest to goodness burned down to the bottom of the bowl and produced "fine gray ash"! And no relights! I swear on my mothers eyes.

    Maybe I should make fun of people who win the lottery next.

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    I find Cavendish and some Virginia blends sweet.

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    Tobacco reviews helped me out quite a bit when i first started experimenting with different tobaccos. I started trying only blends with 4 stars, then three, at that point i was pretty confidant in what types i would enjoy. Now I mostly get enjoyment out of reading other peoples thoughts on blends.

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    I've read a lot of reviews on TR, mostly out of curiosity. On the McCl ketchup question, when I opened my very first tin of McCl tobacco (FMOTT) my wife (who has not been to TR) said it smelled like hickory BBQ sauce. You all must have pretty fancy ketchup.

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    TR is great if you are searching for something based on strength, room note or ingredients in a blend.

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    I agree juni. I use their search all the time. It's fun reading the reviews too -- just take'em for what they're worth.

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    funny thing is, i bet alot of those guys writing reviews are a) the same person, or b) never smoked the tobacco they are reviewing...

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    What I could never understand is how some reviewers can be so prolific. Common sense, and the advice of many experienced smokers, dictates that one needs to become really familiar with a blend to fully appreciate it's nuances and subtleties. Although I can have initial impressions and opinions after one smoke, I hardly feel qualified to review and recommend a blend after anything less than a full tin. And in most cases I balk at offering a review after smoking much more. I get the impression many of TR.com's reviewers just smoke a couple of bowls, if that, and dash off whatever comes to mind -- pro or con. Shallow and superficial; but the star ratings do offer some measure of general acceptance.

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    I never seem to be able to distinguish so many of the different flavors, and changes in flavors as well as most of the reviewers, but the site has helped me pick some winners. One thing I don't like, is that some guys seem to hold grudges against certain brands. I am not digging that. I have been reprimanded for using humor, oh well. Overall I think the site has been a big help to many.

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