Please Break Down FDA Ruling

[tobaccojoe]

Nate: Ridiculous, right!? Funny, I've never seen a sticker of an obese person on a Big Mac box or a drunk driving victim on any alcohol bottles. Curious, no?

 

[iamn8]

Good point Joe! I'll add that the next time I drop something into the FDA's "suggestion box". One can only hope the FDA begins to regulate take-out food! There's a never ending list of choices we each make on a daily basis which we obviously can't be trusted with. Things like "taking the scenic route" is responsible for excess car exhaust and with GPS pointing the most direct route, scenic routes should fall under EPA purview and should be taxed. Between the EPA and the FDA our lives will be made so much efficient and healthy! Thank god for governmental agencies and the taxes which drive them!!

 

[tobaccojoe]

The squeaky wheels seem to always get the grease and the good people who just want to be left alone bear the brunt of it.
-Joe

 

[brian64]

A few newspapers and journals have talked about application fees and they are astonomically imposing and restrictive in nature:
But e-cig companies will also incur great costs in both time and expense in complying, if they're even able to do so. The FDA itself admits it could take as many as 5,000 hours to complete the necessary paperwork and cost "only" several hundred thousand dollars per product. Industry estimates, however, run orders of magnitude higher, between $3 million and $20 million per product. Plus applications have to be submitted for everything a manufacturer wants to do. New product design? Submit an application. Make a health claim? Submit an application. Register with the agency? Application. Introduce ingredients? Application.

It's obvious the only e-cig companies that will be able to afford such time-consuming and costly processes, even at the decidedly lowball figures offered by the FDA, are the established players in the industry: the tobacco giants that have their own e-cig and vapor products on the market. The many thousands of smaller players that currently populate the market will find those costs impossible to pay. Instead they'll be driven from the market by the ruinous costs. If they're lucky they may be bought up by Altria or Reynolds, which will further solidify Big Tobacco's dominance.
Source: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/05/20/the-fdas-electronic-cigarette-rules-are-here-and-t.aspx

Monopoly Capitalism in action. It's so ironic that many people support powerful government regulatory agencies because they think it's preventing the big corporations from having too much power. The reality is almost always exactly the opposite. The monstrosities that are the largest corporations can only exist through the power of government enforced monopolies.
"Socialism" is a code word for corporate fascism, where the only thing in between the super wealthy and the super poor is the police state. And the Owners sit back and laugh their asses off at the peasants who never figure this out and keep demanding more government power.
Here's a news flash: there really is no government. Hiding behind what we call government are the banks and the largest corporations.

 

[mso489]

If enacted as they stand, these regulations will pretty well eliminate new blends as commercially viable products. Pipe smokers can maintain some novelty and variation by using blending leaf and mixing blends, but tobacco sales will be curtailed by lack of new products. The pipe hobby/interest may fade by being static. But this could take a long, long time, too, like a generation. A few adjustments could make it less onerous. It's difficult to see how tobacco blending could continue to thrive.

 

[warren]

We need to look at the possible positives of these regulations. No longer will pipe smokers need to read reviews or part with hard earned moneys just to sample the myriad of new blends. New smokers will have an easier time selecting blends, no more wandering into a tobacconist or spending hours reading on-line catalogs, just pick from the ten or so blends available and learn to like them. No more opening jars, smelling the tobacco or wasting time with a test bowl. The older established blends will have less competition.
Blenders will no longer need to tax their brains and invest time in developing new blends. No longer will some poor soul need to rack the brain trying to come up with a catchy new name. Tobacco retailers will be able to pare inventories and possibly reduce a bit of overhead costs.
The leisure class, also known as the unemployed, will grow as blenders retire to enjoy the moneys they've salted away, tobacconists can retire to their yachts and country estates.
I see a lot of upside with these pending regulations.

 

[4noggins]

Warren,
And in two years I'll be living on my 46' Outbound (Sailboat) in St. Croix sporting dreads and a gold tooth!!

 

[jefff]

Sighsssss I wish I had enough hair left for dreads.

 

[jpmcwjr]

We need to look at the possible positives of these regulations. No longer will pipe smokers need to read reviews or part with hard earned moneys just to sample the myriad of new blends. New smokers will have an easier time selecting blends, no more wandering into a tobacconist or spending hours reading on-line catalogs, just pick from the ten or so blends available and learn to like them. No more opening jars, smelling the tobacco or wasting time with a test bowl. The older established blends will have less competition.

In other words, Nirvana! Now, will there be attractive young ladies waiting to meet our every desire as well?? (The hell with virgins, too much trouble to educate).

 

[brian64]

Optimists are so annoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ