The cops always say, "if you don't have anything to hide, what are you worried about?" Then if you whip out a camera or video equipment and say the same thing, watch them lose their minds.
PA Cops Can Search Your Car Without a Warrant
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The thing is, it's not too difficult to see how something like this can be abused.
Good point cosmic. On that point, we all have read stories of DAs, judges and cops sending innocent people to jail knowing full well these people are innocent. I am not saying it happens all the time, just that it happens. Human beings are a mixed up lot and you've got kooks and crazies in all walks of life and can be found in all professions.
So it is of course worrisome when egregious powers are handed over to large group of people, some good and some bad.
I see this being a big issue, all you need is a women to say a cop forced her out of her car and that would be the end of this nonsense.
So, a cop can search you just because he "suspects" that you "might" be doing something wrong?
I thought only wives were allowed to do that! :?
I thought only wives were allowed to do that! :?
"I see this being a big issue, all you need is a women to say a cop forced her out of her car and that would be the end of this nonsense."
Sorry, but I see your assumption as being completely wrong. Warrantless car searches are the status quo in many other states, as well in all federal jurisdictions. Getting this reversed is not likely.
PA is increasingly less free. With the encroachment of NY and NJ refugees, looking for more house and demanding less freedom ("Why don't we have a police force in this township?" I hear them cry), the bell tolls loud and long for the cradle of the nation.
As my late, great father used to opine "What this world needs is a good pandemic that will wipe out 2/3'ds of the population".
Sorry, but I see your assumption as being completely wrong. Warrantless car searches are the status quo in many other states, as well in all federal jurisdictions. Getting this reversed is not likely.
PA is increasingly less free. With the encroachment of NY and NJ refugees, looking for more house and demanding less freedom ("Why don't we have a police force in this township?" I hear them cry), the bell tolls loud and long for the cradle of the nation.
As my late, great father used to opine "What this world needs is a good pandemic that will wipe out 2/3'ds of the population".
Actually, Canada is more culturally diverse than the US. We are anything but a monoculture. See:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/18/the-most-and-least-culturally-diverse-countries-in-the-world/
To each his own. I enjoy both countries and think we are more similar than we are different. There are things I love about the US and hate about Canada and vice-versa. We do have different historical origins that have shaped our societies and there is no question that this leads to some differences. The issue of what "rights" you view as important will obviously be heavily influenced by your upbringing and a whole variety of exogenous factors.
Just remember - we have 20% of the world's fresh water, a huge endowment of natural resources (second only to Russia), and less than half of one percent of the world's population. There is a reason why the Chinese are trying to cozy up to us.
The diversity of Canada is concentrated into two areas: The urban areas, where you see the cultural conflicts of recent immigrants manifested in the form of crime and poverty, and in the bush, where the 600-odd tribes of First Nations folks live a life only slightly less subjugated and poverty-infested than their brethren in the US. There may be 600+ tribes, but that's not what I'd call diverse in the sense that we are talking about. It's a fine division amongst a broad class of indigenous people.
anglesey, what I love about the UK is that you guys know that the last letter in the alphabet is pronounced "Zed" not "Zee".
A friend of mine from the UK lived and worked in New York for a number of years. He used to joke that he knew it was time to move back to the UK when his kid came home from school one day and assured him that the last letter in the alphabet was "Zee." As he used to say, enough of these "colonial educational institutions". LOL
A friend of mine from the UK lived and worked in New York for a number of years. He used to joke that he knew it was time to move back to the UK when his kid came home from school one day and assured him that the last letter in the alphabet was "Zee." As he used to say, enough of these "colonial educational institutions". LOL
"But isn't the cultural diversity of the US similarly concentrated in urban areas? "
Yes, to some degree it is. There is a large rural population of certain ethnic groups, though. The US also has a much higher population density than Canada, and some rather seriously entrenched problems related our our failure to integrate and educate immigrants in recent times. Oh, and that little, lingering legacy of indentured servitude.
It is also my impression that cultural and ethnic identity in Canada is not used as a Balkanization cleaving point the way it is here in the US. Please correct me if I am wrong. The US gov't uses diversity as part of a divide-and-conquer strategy. It hasn't helped with unit cohesiveness.
Yes, to some degree it is. There is a large rural population of certain ethnic groups, though. The US also has a much higher population density than Canada, and some rather seriously entrenched problems related our our failure to integrate and educate immigrants in recent times. Oh, and that little, lingering legacy of indentured servitude.
It is also my impression that cultural and ethnic identity in Canada is not used as a Balkanization cleaving point the way it is here in the US. Please correct me if I am wrong. The US gov't uses diversity as part of a divide-and-conquer strategy. It hasn't helped with unit cohesiveness.
In Canada, we don't have "probable cause" searches, so generally a warrant would be needed to search a vehicle. A couple of exceptions to this would be the "plain view" doctrine (if a cop saw something illegal in your vehicle just by looking in the window), a search incident to arrest of the occupant (for an offence) or a consent search. But bear in mind, in Canada a "consent search" isn't just the cop asks you if it is okay and you say yes. The cop has to explain that you don't have to say "yes", that you can tell him to stop at any time, that you can call a lawyer, and that you understand the jeopardy that you are putting yourself in.
I'm not so sure of that. In Canada, the concept of a melting pot seems to have been largely rejected in favour of a cultural mosaic, whatever the hell those terms mean. Clearly we have had many issues with the French culture over the years with respect to the possible separation of Quebec.
Indeed, which is why I was surprised that something like this could ever pass constitutional scrutiny in the US. Shocking that we have more rights than our southern neighbours with respect to search and seizure.
"melting pot seems to have been largely rejected in favour of a cultural mosaic"
In theory, the same is true in the US, but in reality, the government pits one group against another in order to divide and conquer. All the while espousing unity, diversity, anti-racism, inclusiveness and tolerance.
Cognitive dissonance on steroids.
In theory, the same is true in the US, but in reality, the government pits one group against another in order to divide and conquer. All the while espousing unity, diversity, anti-racism, inclusiveness and tolerance.
Cognitive dissonance on steroids.
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