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bullethead

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Jun 20, 2015
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It is not going to stop until they convince the public that it is ok to shoot smokers and bury them in a mass grave.
I pay $13.50 for a pack of cigarettes (I'm from New York City), and I smoke about 3 packs a day, about $1,000 a month for just cigarettes. I am a victim of the drug war started by Bloomberg our ex. mayor. Where I am from a guy was murdered by police for selling untaxed cigarettes, that is the final nail in the coffin for my thoughts on this war.
If it gets too bad I will leave the state, if it gets even worse I will leave the country and renounce my citizenship.

 

brudnod

Part of the Furniture Now
Aug 26, 2013
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Bullethead, if you smoke 3 packs per day and spend $12,000 post tax dollars per year for cigarettes, you have bigger problems than just a smoking ban. Relax with you pipe and contemplate cutting out the cigs; for now you can still smoke the briar in peace...

 

bullethead

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Jun 20, 2015
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Spencer I will try, I got my first exposure to C&D Pirate Cake this week. I love Latakia, cheers!
Didn't mean to sound disgruntled, doing fine. If they try something, the new world order powers that be and try to stop me from enjoying myself, there are other options, as an example that I said, just walk away. Every man is free.

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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Pendulums always swing back and forth, that's what pendulums do. No indication of change they simply start to move back to the left or right. A pendulum is not a pendulum if it doesn't do this. The return swing is not optional, it simply reaches the end of one arc and returns on the same path. Someone, or thing must provide the power though, it's not perpetual motion, energy is needed. People are only so tolerant, then change is implemented. The SSR, Germany, the USA all come to mind.
I will concede that while a true pendulum maintains a rigid, unalterable arc, pendulums in society sometimes widen and narrow the arc. The pendulum as an analogy is interesting. Now I've lost the author's intent totally.

 

bullethead

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Jun 20, 2015
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As long as there are left and right wings, on the same bird flying into a brick wall. No other comment.
Cheers !

 

brudnod

Part of the Furniture Now
Aug 26, 2013
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Great Falls, VA
Never quite got the whole Blumberg and DeBlasio bents. There just has to be some limit on what is allowed and what should be tolerated (both ends of the pendulum swing). The big drink thing seemed so random to me; people who are stricted to one larger drink are just going to drink two smaller drinks. And not everyone, maybe not even a majority, drink high calorie beverages, there are lots of diet drinks out there. The trans-fat thing made some sense and will produce health benefits. So there is 1 for 2. Smoking in an apartment is to be restricted? Let's face it, the difference between renting and "owning" is a small, in most cases, equity in the property and not much else. The property is still owned by the bank. So why restrict one and not the other? Better put, why restrict either? All due respect but NYC is a great place to visit; I would never want to live there.

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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My home is owned by me. Not a big believer in mortgages. The only entity that can take over my abode is the government which collects the property taxes should I not pay.
Bloomberg and DeBlasio are socialists, DeBlasio more of a communist with respect to ideology, and therefore want government in total control. The are not big believers in people being allowed to make choices as people invariably make bad ones while government, only makes good decisions. Simple actually. A lot of people prefer having decisions made for them, less muss, less fuss and it's easier than having to gather information, weigh options and make a choice.

 

seacaptain

Lifer
Apr 24, 2015
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As long as there are left and right wings, on the same bird flying into a brick wall. No other comment.
I think that's a good analogy about what's happening. Or another analogy I read - The left is insisting we drive off a cliff as fast as possible, the right is insisting we obey the speed limit. No one is suggesting we turn the car around.

 

Perique

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Sep 20, 2011
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Not sure I can agree with that. The current situation is we have two left wings, one larger than the other. I don't mean to go "political" here, but I'm the context of tobacco taxes and related subject matter, I'm not seeing where this bird has two distinct wings. It's bigger than that. It's a philosophical and cultural devolution.

 

bullethead

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Jun 20, 2015
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it is a dead bird, shot as it was flying in the sky. it really started with the federal reserve allowed to print our currency way back in the early 1900s.
left, right, etc...
be well brother perique.

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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I beg to differ. Shortly after the country was born, politicians discovered voters would sell their votes cheaply. That's when we, the voters, started to cede our responsibilities, to grow government into a controlling entity. It all started in the first few years when the USA a was little more than a loose confederation of states. Long before the "gold standard" was discarded, which was also something the people wanted as it would make more moneys available.
The "American Civil War" cemented the idea of a strong, centralized, omnipotent government. Then the people started enjoy government subsidized railroads, later airlines, interstate highways and the like, even as they created the "professional politician" so roundly decried today. So, over the last couple of hundred years one generation after another sold their birth rights for the convenience of laws and regulations which were to make our lives safer and easier. In some cases this was true but the piper must be paid through increased regulation which is always followed with increased taxes to pay for construction and enforcement of the new regulations the public clamors for.
To blame political parties for the state of the nation is absurd. Politicians only get elected when they can get sufficient numbers of voters to vote for them. So, money has to go out from Washington, state capitals and municipalities to the voters. Roads must be built, sicknesses cured or eradicated, children educated, wars fought, large soft drinks banned, increased MPG, wet lands protected, personal communications intercepted and read, day care regulated, farmers subsidized, various animals and insects must be protected, armies raised and maintained, employment for everyone, unemployment insurance for everyone. The voters want many things, new things are discovered almost daily and the politicians must respond in order to get elected and deliver.
The people want what they want and they want it now! A lot of what we want isn't, in the long run, good for us.

 

jackswilling

Lifer
Feb 15, 2015
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No surprise, De Blasio is the quintessential nanny liberal. The citizens of New York City and New York State for that matter, deserve all this and more. What do we say to our kids, "Make good choices."

 

bullethead

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Jun 20, 2015
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De Blasio and the former Bloomberg are fascists, plain and simple. Hitlery (Hillery) will be even worse.
They will stop at nothing for more power, even killing innocent citizens doesn't bother them.
Learn what happened under Stalin, Mao, Hitler.
They already took our guns, and then they came for our cigarettes too.
You guys in the United States really should wake up. New York is a cesspool of a hellish nightmare insanity without end. Don't let that happen to you too.
I plan on moving down south myself. ;)

 
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