Parker is owned by Dunhill, but in my memory, they have never been real seconds, nothing spirited off the Dunhill workshop floor and recycled as a less expensive pipe. You can look at the shapes and more or less know this is true. Various pipes have danced in the shadow of Dunhill trying to exude the "Dunhill second" aura, but I don't believe it. Hardcastle, Britannia, and maybe others have been owned or otherwise connected to Dunhill. If any real seconds exist, I believe they go way back. One of our Dunhill historians may have that story. I own a little Parker cherrywood; it's a dandy pipe, but I nurture no illusions. I like my Britannia too.