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rakovsky

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What do you think are the:
Roughest blends: Cherokee Red and Carter Hall?

Goopyest: Queen Anne's Revenge?

Stinkiest: Bacon Old Fashioned?

Adverse Chemical: Exotic Orange/Exotic Passion? (I hear some count it as like potpourri)

Soapyest: Northwoods? (This is just some people's perceptions of it, like mine)

All of these that I mentioned I would be glad to try, if I haven't already.
 

sunnysmokes

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What do you think are the:
Roughest blends: Cherokee Red and Carter Hall?

Goopyest: Queen Anne's Revenge?

Stinkiest: Bacon Old Fashioned?

Adverse Chemical: Exotic Orange/Exotic Passion? (I hear some count it as like potpourri)

Soapyest: Northwoods? (This is just some people's perceptions of it, like mine)

All of these that I mentioned I would be glad to try, if I haven't already.
Northwoods gives me mostly straight campfire and the vanilla is a very background role in my taste. I did notice that on the last 3rd of the bowl it did get a little plasticy/chemical, but the first 2/3 were good enough where I can just pitch the last bit and not care
 
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Sig

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Need to get some Siberia snus
Ive had their snus quite a bit but prefer Odins and General Snus.
I believe the Siberia is just strong to be strong if you know what I mean. Odins is almost as potent but has better flavors. General isn't very strong but its cheaper and very tasty.
 
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rakovsky

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Full Virginia Flake.
SG Full Virginia Flake used to be a challenge to keep lit. No longer, I stopped smoking it. I'm not looking for any challenges when I smoke.
I diced FVF Plug into tiny pieces that looked like they would burn OK. I didn't rub them out with my fingers and only was told later that you need to do that. I was able to light the blend in my pipe, but it was so hard to keep lit that I used up my remaining matches in my SWAN match box, along with the rest of the fuel in my DJeep lighter. I switched to Kitchen matches by Diamond and burned through about 20 of them, in part because they didn't light well.
 
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sablebrush52

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When I talk about the roughness in Cherokee and Carter Hall, I don't mean tongue bite.
The "MacBite" I mentioned didn't refer to tongue bite. It referred to the level of sting and occasional harshness that the uncased MacBaren blends delivered. Longer aging tends to reduce this effect. Personally, I didn't experience much of it with those blends.
 
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rakovsky

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The "MacBite" I mentioned didn't refer to tongue bite. It referred to the level of sting and occasional harshness that the uncased MacBaren blends delivered. Longer aging tends to reduce this effect. Personally, I didn't experience much of it with those blends.
OK. Uncased and little-aged blends are going to be more likely to have the rough harshness effect that I get from Carter Hall and Cherokee Blue, I expect. This is why I think Cherokee Black is rated so well- its longer aging and processing.
 
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quantumboy

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Sep 2, 2015
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Another type of challenge is nicotine load. This challenge has almost only ever come from cigars. However, one time a friend gave me Indonesian Tambolaka made of N. Rustica leaf. I was scared of it, so I didn't finish my bowl. It's known to have a very powerful effect that comes suddenly after smoking it. It looks delicate and innocent enough. Mine had an extremely light and delicate smoke, even more than Carter Hall as I recall. It looked like thin strips of beef jerky, and was so appealing that I pressed it with my teeth a few times to get a taste of it. It did remind me slightly of beef jerky, with a strong black pepper taste. I can't normally recommend it because it was so strong in nicotine. Even smoking just part of the bowl gave me my fill.

When I first saw the title of your post, I immediately thought of Tambolaka. I really like it, and your assessment is spot on. I am nursing my jar to make it last, but that's okay because it is definitely not an everyday smoke for me. If you haven't tried it, you must, at least to boast that you survived the experience!
 
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khiddy

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When I first saw the title of your post, I immediately thought of Tambolaka. I really like it, and your assessment is spot on. I am nursing my jar to make it last, but that's okay because it is definitely not an everyday smoke for me. If you haven't tried it, you must, at least to boast that you survived the experience!
How can someone acquire Tambolaka these days? I've never seen it on any site I frequent, but I'm quite interested – I love Rustica blends and snuffs.
 
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rakovsky

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When I first saw the title of your post, I immediately thought of Tambolaka. I really like it, and your assessment is spot on. I am nursing my jar to make it last, but that's okay because it is definitely not an everyday smoke for me. If you haven't tried it, you must, at least to boast that you survived the experience!
I recall the texture being between beef jerkey, plastic, and rubber. It was thin.

I recall reading that it had a sudden strong effect, so I was very careful to avoid smoking a full chamber-worth. I put some strips in my pipe and didn't stuff the chamber full. I smoked ~ 1/3 of the bowl.

The effect from what I smoked was enough to give me my fill, but it wasn't overpowering or knock me down like I feared. To put it another way, the nicotine load from what I smoked was OK and under control.

I keep a pipe blend list of what I've tried, and this was what I noted in it about Tambolaka and about Whole Leaf Rustica:
Tambolaka: Indonesian cured tobacco with Beef Jerky texture, Black color, strong nicotine, and little smell. The slight smell was maybe like sweet tropical wood or leafiness.

Nicotiana Rustica from the "Whole Leaf" company: I only smoked half a bowl and it was like smoking most of a strong cigar in terms of nic impact. I smoked it dry like it came. The tin note was like a bit dusty 19th century wood-walled museum, with a weak, normal tobacco smell and slight sweet natural tobacco plum note, with maybe a marginal crude/rough/rustic quality.
I don't recall getting woozy from Tambolaka or N. Rustica. Pipe Smoking is a slow enough process that I have the nicotine load under control.

When I started smoking a few decades ago, I gravitated to cigars because I liked the theme of Cuban cigars. I've typically avoided inhaling tobacco over the years, the main exception being hookah/kayan smoke.
a hookah with a yellow cord around it


But ironically, cigars are the tobacco product that has knocked me down the strongest. On ~4 different days I've felt so sick in the stomache or gotten such a headache from cigars that I spend the rest of the day in bed. Often a single full-sized cigar is enough to knock me out like this.

After getting more into pipes as a hobby I've learned more about eating and drinking sugar to avoid this. Showers are good too. But cigars still have a strong impact on me.
 
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rakovsky

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How can someone acquire Tambolaka these days? I've never seen it on any site I frequent, but I'm quite interested – I love Rustica blends and snuffs.
Dear Khiddy,

I got N. Rustica Whole Leaf as a gift from a friend, who in turn got it from a Whole Leaf company.

About 1/4 of Indonesians smoke tobacco, and Tambolaka is one of the Indonesian tobacco products, so if you have Indonesian friends or connections, that would be a way to get it.

I got what a SPEZ friend called "Tambo." He had a few Indonesian tobaccos. I wanted his Indonesian Rhubarb Styrax-Benzoin (a tree resin used in church incense) pipe blend, and he included small samples of Soppeng (Palm-oil roasted-Coconut flavor tobacco) and "Tambo" in his package to me. In turn, he had gotten it from an Indonesian friend.

Personally I didn't find Tambolaka's flavor impressive because the flavor was so light. But it wasn't bad. So I don't want you to have a big feeling of missing out.

Qio Cigars in Indonesia advertised Tambolaka cigars, so they might have access to the non-cigar version.

There are also pipe smokers online, including active forum users here on Pipes Magazine Forum, who discussed ordering Tambolaka from Indonesia or having it in their collections and offering it to other pipers. A quick internet search brought up their discussions. (eg. pipesmagazine.com/forums/threads/tambolaka.17755 ) But it's not popular enough for hardly any US stores to inventory it. So for instance 4Noggins carried it years ago.
 
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