You Tube- What an Amazing Thing!!

[brian64]

I'm torn, I use it all the time but ultimately I hate it.
I think that music is too available these days and it has devalued immensely to the point where a lot of people just aren't used to paying for it anymore. I miss the restriction of listening only to the albums I could afford to buy, having to pore over reviews and make my selections carefully.
I can think of several albums I bought as a teenager that didn't grab me at all on first listen but, because I'd paid out for it, I stuck with it and ended up loving it. There's so much music available on Youtube now that, if something doesn't grab you on your first listen, you move onto the next thing.

I agree to some extent...it's a double-edged sword. It is a wonderful luxury and convenience for the most part, but I can also see how it has the effect of trivializing everything.
I especially enjoy having such access to clips from movies and tv.
This one's for you Bill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt1V61SPI_w

 

[lordofthepiperings]

and spurious DMCAs fly across the internet

I know what Run-DMC is, but I have no clue what a DMCA is.

 

[derfargin]

I think the artists that create music should paid for it. I never said that just because it's available online, doesn't mean that the artist shouldn't be compensated for it. Is it easier to copy music and not pay for it? Yes, but that also goes for any other information that's kept in this media format.
I'm glad that you can pay for music individually, instead of buying an entire "album" full of shitty songs for a select few songs that aren't.

 

[deathmetal]

@lordofthepiperings
https://www.copyrightalliance.org/2012/03/in-plain-english-a-quick-guide-to-dmca-takedown-notices
DMCA notices are complaints that a copyright owner can make against an online site for hosting what the owner believes to be copyrighted content. Record labels, bands, and third parties who hope to get paid by labels frequently file these against YouTube videos that include music. If the "What Are You Listening To Today?" has some dead videos, that is most likely why, followed by YouTube users deleting their accounts for various reasons.

 

[frozenchurchwarden]

Holy hell! Forget going gracefully, you guys have jumped headlong in to old fart mode.

Bigpond, it's something I strive for every day, thanks for the complement. You can't start getting ready for retirement too early.

And it'll be Mixture 79 today.

For low-cost classical, I'd go with the Naxos label, because they hire college/Eastern European orchestras to emulate famous conductors near-exactly, resulting in quality interpretations played by proficient but perhaps not interpretive-quality teams.

Deathmetal, thanks for the tip. It should be interesting comparing what I have with different performances.

 

[derfargin]

Those conductor jokes are recycled lawyer jokes, for sure. Not to mention stupid because I have no frame of reference for why a conductor is so hated.

 

[deathmetal]

We had a conductor here who was much loved. He really enjoyed the music, and did his best to bring out what he could discover -- through listening, research and playing it -- what was in there, as intended by the composer to convey to the audience.
Then a new guy came. He is a real peacock. His goal is to use the music to make himself look profound, compassionate and interesting. He does not study the music. He studies idiots, and also his coworkers, to see what they will reward. Then he adds his own dramatic flourishes and sometimes some of the original music peeks through.

 

[deathmetal]

Maybe it's time for a classical thread... or some war stories, @billkay.
I'm always impressed by a good symphony. Those are some of the most talented musicians you will find anywhere.

 

[phil67]

I’m somewhat eclectic in my taste when it comes to music albeit there is much that I can’t abide with. But, I would imagine that is the way with most people. I’ve been to my share of rock festivals in the late 60’s and just missed Woodstock because of car trouble and also had season tickets at Orchestra Hall for the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. As of late I’m really enjoying the multisided of classical videos available and being able to enjoy seeing an orchestra play some of my favorites on YT while I sit back and enjoy a pipe or a cigar.
As for the jokes about conductors I heard them all before, but as I remember they were all originally about lawyers. On the subject of conductors, yes, they are indeed an integral part of a symphonic orchestra albeit it may be difficult for most to understand why. Obviously the orchestra knows how to read the score and count, but more often than not the conductor comes into play during the rehearsals and giving his/her personal interpretation of the piece. Also, the conductor can remind the orchestra during the performance of how he/she wants the piece played. There is much more to the playing of music than reproducing the written score in aural form. It is possible for musicians to forget, and when you consider that they are playing their instrument, reading the score and trying to keep together with those around them all simultaneously any help is welcome.
Then there is also the rests and especially for brass, woodwind and percussion players. There can be considerable stretches of time when they are not required, signaled in the score by something like 140+ bars rest. Even the most rhythmically minded musician can lose count so the responsibility is placed in the hands of the conductor. If you watch a video of a symphonic orchestra and the camera focusing on various players you will indeed see them occasionally looking up at the conductor and they do so for a reason.
Granted, there are some conductors that simply get carried away and into their own world, as it were, and make unnecessary gestures that mean absolutely nothing to the orchestra, but they are still directing the necessary flow and timing. Here is a one example of such by Valery Gergiev conducting ‘Scheherazade’ by Rimsky Korsakov. Crank up the volume, turn down the lights and indulge yourself. :wink:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQNymNaTr-Y

 

[brian64]

It's the ones who insist on being called Maestro at all times that are especially annoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7APrz5K1YI