Yes, pipe smoker's have a real problem going forward with the F.T.C.A.

[captainbob]

Get your brain wrapped around this! Then ask yourself if the likes of Cornell and Diehl or McClelland can survive. Or, for that matter, will we be able to afford any pipe tobacco? This is what has been Legislated and Passed! Take a look at one excerpt from the Law as passed and signed into Law by President Obama.
“(a) Establishment of quarterly fee.—Beginning on the date of enactment of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, the Secretary shall in accordance with this section assess user fees on, and collect such fees from, each manufacturer and importer of tobacco products subject to this chapter. The fees shall be assessed and collected with respect to each quarter of each fiscal year, and the total amount assessed and collected for a fiscal year shall be the amount specified in subsection (b)(1) for such year, subject to subsection (c).
“(b) Assessment of user fee.—
“(1) Amount of assessment.—The total amount of user fees authorized to be assessed and collected under subsection (a) for a fiscal year is the following, as applicable to the fiscal year involved:
“(A) For fiscal year 2009, $85,000,000 (subject to subsection (e)).
“(B) For fiscal year 2010, $235,000,000.
“(C) For fiscal year 2011, $450,000,000.
“(D) For fiscal year 2012, $477,000,000.
“(E) For fiscal year 2013, $505,000,000.
“(F) For fiscal year 2014, $534,000,000.
“(G) For fiscal year 2015, $566,000,000.
“(H) For fiscal year 2016, $599,000,000.
“(I) For fiscal year 2017, $635,000,000.
“(J) For fiscal year 2018, $672,000,000.
“(K) For fiscal year 2019 and each subsequent fiscal year, $712,000,000.
“(2) Allocations of assessment by class of tobacco products.—
“(A) In general.—The total user fees assessed and collected under subsection (a) each fiscal year with respect to each class of tobacco products shall be an amount that is equal to the applicable percentage of each class for the fiscal year multiplied by the amount specified in paragraph (1) for the fiscal year.

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[rickpal14]

For those who are interested the link to the entire document can be found HERE
The section that CaptainBob references can be found on page 52.
According to section 625 of Public Law 108–357, the pipe smoking manufacturers are responsible (quarterly)for 0.066% of the current years assessment. I could only find 2005 data. The total breakdown is:
Sec 625(c) Assessments for Classes of Tobacco Products.--

(1) Initial allocation.--The percentage of the total amount

required by subsection (b) to be assessed against, and paid by,

the manufacturers and importers of each class of tobacco product

in fiscal year 2005 shall be as follows:

(A) For cigarette manufacturers and importers,

96.331 percent.

(B) For cigar manufacturers and importers, 2.783

percent.

(C) For snuff manufacturers and importers, 0.539

percent.

(D) For roll-your-own tobacco manufacturers and

importers, 0.171 percent.

(E) For chewing tobacco manufacturers and importers,

0.111 percent.

(F) For pipe tobacco manufacturers and importers,

0.066 percent.
After reading thru this the most striking aspect of this law is the SIZE of the department that will be created to handle this inane law. It will cost more, much more, to run than the amount it will collect.... Big gov't and big brother at it's finest!! Not!!

 

[waznyf]

I love that I am becoming more educated from those posting about this issue, especially since I knew little about it until I joined the forum, and yet I am still bummed more and more when I see these posts. For a hobby I just started to be challenged in such a way breaks my heart.

We shall prevail though!

 

[jonahtke]

*waznyf +1
I don't think this'll be as bad as some are making it out to be. There will be changes, and they will be unpleasant. But we'll still have our pipes, and good baccy to stuff into them.

 

[ocpsdan]

jonahtke-- couldn't agree more. Worst thing that happens is we all move to Mexico. :lol:
Stock up while the stockins' good!

 

[jaysin]

ok I have a issue with my mouth sometimes and this is one of them sorry if i offend anyone.

Is what this jackass doing even effin legal?

 

[lonestar]

Is what this jackass doing even effin legal?

That depends on what your definition of "is" is.

 

[lonestar]

Is what this jackass doing even effin legal?
That depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Or, the non bullshit answer. HELL NO.

But you'll take it anyway, and you'll like it (and how dare you even ask).

 

[scotrob]

@ocpsdan
or you're welcome to come to Europe too! things are not as bad here (and i hope this kind of nonsense doesnt spread over here either!), and the Dutch at least have now begun to reverse some of their anti-smoking laws, so there is a glimmer of hope in the world for freedom of expression:
Dutch smoking law

 

[romanza10]

Wasn't there another thread about this same thing not to long ago?
From what it looks like from reading what captainbob posted, this isn't about people smoking tobacco. Not at all, but about how the Gubment can squeeze more money out of it's people. And it's the sort of thing that's, lets be honest here, not real popular with the majority, tobacco. From what I understand they already tax the hell out of alcohol, just ask the manager of any liquor store.
In fact I would go so far as to say this whole thing has nothing to really do with peoples health, if that was the case they would make tobacco illegal. No, I would bet more than two boxes of doughnuts this is all about money. The other stuff they attach to it is for show.

 

[kennerth]

After reflecting on this for a bit, I am somewhat amused at this irony. The Native Americans provided us with our first nicotine hit, and now that we are addicted these hundreds of years later, the only place we may be able to buy it will be at Indian Casinos! :|

 

[jchaplick]

And I was even thinking about voting for obama, if for the only reason is that I hate all the others....im voting for Winnie the Pooh now, thansk obama, you just ruined my night

 

[jaysin]

lonestar, let's ask Slick Willy Clinton what the definition of "is" is.

 

[spartan]

Kevin Godbee for President!

 

[lordnoble]

No! Kevin would then have too much to do to put up more Pipe Babe galleries and excellent content on this site!
-Jason

 

[captainbob]

Me thinks I struck a nerve here! Damn the torpedos... full speed ahead!

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