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DAR

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Ziggywm said:
I have a cardiologist friend who shares his man cave with me, and vice versa. We have an agreement that I don't tell anyone that this upstanding cardiologist likes cigars and pipes. Its our secret. So you see, we play the game and do what we enjoy, anyway.
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I often do business with a cardiologist and when I first walked into his private office, I was bombarded by Latakia. We've shared a pipeful here and there since that day. He hides in his office and doesn't want anyone to know he is a smoker. It is quite strange that we have to go either one way or the other when it comes to smoking. You either have to be an anti smoking fanatic or someone that is considered "addicted". There seems to be no middle ground on the subject.
 
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DAR said:
I often do business with a cardiologist and when I first walked into his private office, I was bombarded by Latakia. We've shared a pipeful here and there since that day. He hides in his office and doesn't want anyone to know he is a smoker. It is quite strange that we have to go either one way or the other when it comes to smoking. You either have to be an anti smoking fanatic or someone that is considered "addicted". There seems to be no middle ground on the subject.
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I am happy you could share a pipe with him. Nice. And I bet he enjoyed your friendship. Read Eric Hoffer's: The True Believer. Maybe you have. Its old, but still relevant. More recently, you might want to watch Jordan Peterson's lectures on YouTube. He is a clinical psychologist who has studied intolerance. He doesn't address anti-smoking directly, but has something to say about bullying and individual responsibility. He recently did a 5 hour interview with Dr. Oz.
 
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niblicck said:
Posted By Toyacoyah Brown November 13th, 2016 Last Updated on: November 24th, 2019

A new documentary exploring tobacco use among American Indians in Minnesota will premiere on public television this month. Created by Dakota/Diné producer Leya Hale with input from Anishinaabe and Dakota elders, Reclaiming Sacred Tobacco features dozens of Minnesota American Indians telling their tobacco stories and discussing how tobacco traditions were corrupted by the commercial tobacco industry. Coproduced by ClearWay Minnesota and Twin Cities PBS, the program shows how restoring traditional tobacco ways can help undo the harms of the tobacco industry and improve health in Indian Country.

“In Minnesota, American Indians smoke cigarettes at a rate of 59 percent – four times the rate of the general population,” said Nicole Toves Villaluz, who manages tribal grant-making for ClearWay Minnesota. “We saw this project as a way to raise awareness of historical and current traditional tobacco practices and to understand commercial tobacco abuse in our tribal communities.”

Told entirely from the viewpoint of American Indians, Reclaiming Sacred Tobacco explores how plants that were four sacred medicines for indigenous people were exploited for profit by tobacco companies, creating epidemic-level health problems for Natives. At the same time, it shows how American Indians in Minnesota are working to restore traditional tobacco practices, to reduce commercial tobacco abuse like cigarette smoking, and to prevent secondhand smoke exposure.

“We plan to share this program with our tribal community partners, where it can help us remember the difference between sacred and commercial tobacco,” said Villaluz. “And we hope the PBS audience will learn about the health disparities experienced by American Indians, and support culturally-driven efforts to improve health equity for our people.”


The program will debut on tpt's MN Channel on November 13 at 7 p.m. and will continue to air on PBS stations through the end of November. Following the premiere, the program can also be viewed on the Twin Cities PBS website and at www.clearwaymn.org/KeepTobaccoSacred.

ClearWay Minnesota is an independent, nonprofit organization that improves the health of Minnesotans by reducing the harm caused by tobacco. ClearWay Minnesota serves Minnesota through its grant-making program, QUITPLAN® stop-smoking services and statewide outreach activities. It is funded with 3 percent of the state's 1998 tobacco settlement.
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"...will premiere on public television this month...."

Tells me all I need to know about the Socio-Political agenda and motives behind the thing. - Sherm Natman
 
elvishrunes

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The old joke is we poisoned and screwed over Native Americans with booze, and they reached out from the grave and screwed us back over with tobacco and cigarettes...

I don‘t smoke my pipe as much as before and sort of see pipe smoking as a ritual and pleasure, a bit of both... I think pipe smoking could qualify as sacred.
 
hauntedmyst

hauntedmyst

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As a German/Irish descendant, I find the cultural appropriation hugely insulting. I'd hate it if some company made a commercial that implied they were able to make high quality precision automobiles while drunk. Sorry, but no, that's a distinctly German/Irish thing.
 
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frozenchurchwarden

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BROBS said:
? yeah bro
I didn’t say it didn’t impair you. I said it’s healthier for you.
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I guess that could be the case if you're uncomfortable with your own thoughts.
Nicotine on the other hand will only improve mental performance.

We all know THC is a good pain killer, and it probably is a good thing restrictions for that medication are getting relaxed, but getting your pain killers through smoke is entirely counterproductive.
There is no reason to want to get THC directly from a plant.

The primary function of Tobacco is Flavor.
Tobacco is an incredibly versatile leaf, it's practically a type of candy (personally I'd be way better off smoking a pipe instead of eating a bowl of ice cream).
All else being equal, if we could get Tobacco in a Nicotine Free form and cut out the taxes I would gladly take that variety.
 
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