Wreck of American Warship USS Jacob Jones Found off Cornwall.

[mawnansmiff]

Whilst on convoy duty, the USS Jacob Jones was apparently the first US warship sunk due to enemy action in December 1917.

Her wreck has been found by divers off the Scilly Iles which lie about 28 miles from the west coast of Cornwall.

When I saw the article on the news last night they closed in on the ship's huge bell. To me it looked rusty....were bells ever made from iron? I wouldn't have thought so.

There are talks going on twixt the finders & the US Government about raising the bell for display at a commemoration place in memory of the brave servicemen who perished with the vessel.




Short clip from the BBC is here...

US World War One wreck found by divers off Cornwall - BBC News

Regards,

Jay.

 

[Infantry23]

Thanks for sharing that. It's a really interesting video clip. I knew nothing of the history of this ship.

 

[Piping Rooster]

Whilst on convoy duty, the USS Jacob Jones was apparently the first US warship sunk due to enemy action in December 1917.

Her wreck has been found by divers off the Scilly Iles which lie about 28 miles from the west coast of Cornwall.

When I saw the article on the news last night they closed in on the ship's huge bell. To me it looked rusty....were bells ever made from iron? I wouldn't have thought so.

There are talks going on twixt the finders & the US Government about raising the bell for display at a commemoration place in memory of the brave servicemen who perished with the vessel.

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Short clip from the BBC is here...

US World War One wreck found by divers off Cornwall - BBC News

Regards,

Jay.

They should leave it and not use it as another money laundering scheme where they pump in way more money than required and pocket the surplus. No thx! They've stolen enough money from the American people these past few years!
For the sailors who were lost that fateful day may god rest their souls!

 

[mawnansmiff]

They should leave it and not use it as another money laundering scheme where they pump in way more money than required and pocket the surplus. No thx! They've stolen enough money from the American people these past few years!
For the sailors who were lost that fateful day may god rest their souls!

What an utterly crass statement to make.

Shame on you.

Regards,

Jay.

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

They should leave it and not use it as another money laundering scheme where they pump in way more money than required and pocket the surplus. No thx! They've stolen enough money from the American people these past few years!
For the sailors who were lost that fateful day may god rest their souls!

Have there been such "schemes" for war memorials? Seems such an odd, maybe over the top reaction.

 

[AJL67]

Whilst on convoy duty, the USS Jacob Jones was apparently the first US warship sunk due to enemy action in December 1917.

Her wreck has been found by divers off the Scilly Iles which lie about 28 miles from the west coast of Cornwall.

When I saw the article on the news last night they closed in on the ship's huge bell. To me it looked rusty....were bells ever made from iron? I wouldn't have thought so.

There are talks going on twixt the finders & the US Government about raising the bell for display at a commemoration place in memory of the brave servicemen who perished with the vessel.

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Short clip from the BBC is here...

US World War One wreck found by divers off Cornwall - BBC News

Regards,

Jay.

I’m sure we have people here that know more than i, while bells were usually cast in brass that maybe if th war effort the brass was being used for munitions and things and iron was used because of an abundance at the time, one hundred percent guess on my part.

 

[mawnansmiff]

AJL67....that was exactly what crossed my mind when I first saw it, cost efficiency I thought.

Would an iron bell ring as a brass bell would? I suppose it must sound similar.

Regards,

Jay.

 

[kschatey]

USS Jacob Jones

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Wow, that really is quite a boat! For some reason I would have envisioned smaller for the time. No idea why, but clearly I had no idea. That is a lot of ship right there.

 

[cigrmaster]

Anyone have any idea how deep the wreck is? Can you scuba it with regular air or do you need mixed gasses. That would be one major cool dive.

 

[anantaandroscoggin]

A four-stack "destroyer (maybe?)" Would that be the Wicks class, by any chance?

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

Whilst on convoy duty, the USS Jacob Jones was apparently the first US warship sunk due to enemy action in December 1917.

Her wreck has been found by divers off the Scilly Iles which lie about 28 miles from the west coast of Cornwall.

When I saw the article on the news last night they closed in on the ship's huge bell. To me it looked rusty....were bells ever made from iron? I wouldn't have thought so.

There are talks going on twixt the finders & the US Government about raising the bell for display at a commemoration place in memory of the brave servicemen who perished with the vessel.

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Short clip from the BBC is here...

US World War One wreck found by divers off Cornwall - BBC News

Regards,

Jay.

That is really cool and thanks for posting! Going to read more about it.

 

[Briar Lee]

Whilst on convoy duty, the USS Jacob Jones was apparently the first US warship sunk due to enemy action in December 1917.

Her wreck has been found by divers off the Scilly Iles which lie about 28 miles from the west coast of Cornwall.

When I saw the article on the news last night they closed in on the ship's huge bell. To me it looked rusty....were bells ever made from iron? I wouldn't have thought so.

There are talks going on twixt the finders & the US Government about raising the bell for display at a commemoration place in memory of the brave servicemen who perished with the vessel.

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Short clip from the BBC is here...

US World War One wreck found by divers off Cornwall - BBC News

Regards,

Jay.

My family appreciated the sacrifices of sailors who gave their lives, that we might live free.

My old grandma taught us all to sing this song about the Good Rueben James.

WHAT WERE THEIR NAMES (GOOD RUEBEN JAMES)

66 men died on the USS Jacob Jones.

Freedom isn’t free.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

.were bells ever made from iron? I wouldn't have thought so.

"The vast majority of war ships and landing craft were outfitted with cast iron bells made in Hillsboro by C. S. Bell Company workers"

Bells for Allied Forces - The Times Gazette

D-day and Memorial Day are significant in United States history, and are directly linked to the C. S. Bell Company in Hillsboro. Noted Hillsboro historian Jean Wallis pointed out in her 1970s research the implications of the C. S. Bell Company supplying tens of thousands of bells to the Allied...

www.timesgazette.com

Iron bells ring quite well actually.

 

[romaso]

Anyone have any idea how deep the wreck is? Can you scuba it with regular air or do you need mixed gasses. That would be one major cool dive.

Article says, "The USS Jacob Jones, was found more than 328ft (100m) under the water"

US World War One wreck found by divers off Cornwall - BBC News

 

[mso489]

Being a veteran fleet sailor, a radioman aboard the USS Gallant MSO (minesweeper ocean going) I found this pretty interesting. Our ship was smaller, but our crew was bigger, about 72 depending on what we were doing. I was interested in the design of this WWI destroyer. I couldn't even tell what ship it was, with no designation until the video sound track stated it was a destroyer. It sure rode low in the water compared to WWII and later destroyers. It moved really fast, at 30 knots, compared to a top speed for my 'sweep of about 14 knots. Four stacks for a small ship is quite a few, so obviously the boiler and engine were jacked up for speed.

That must have been quite a prize for the German submarine crew in the first war to have major submarine engagement. May the crew rest in peace.

My wife's father was in WWI, having been a teenager, gassed in the trenches. He met General Pershing, a fellow Missourian, and later being treated at veterans hospitals he met Abbot and Costello and Bess Truman, the wife of Harry Truman, when Harry was a judge in the state of Missouri and Bess was doing volunteer work driving around patients from the veterans hospital.

 

[mawnansmiff]

Being a veteran fleet sailor, a radioman aboard the USS Gallant MSO (minesweeper ocean going) I found this pretty interesting. Our ship was smaller, but our crew was bigger, about 72 depending on what we were doing. I was interested in the design of this WWI destroyer. I couldn't even tell what ship it was, with no designation until the video sound track stated it was a destroyer. It sure rode low in the water compared to WWII and later destroyers. It moved really fast, at 30 knots, compared to a top speed for my 'sweep of about 14 knots. Four stacks for a small ship is quite a few, so obviously the boiler and engine were jacked up for speed.

That must have been quite a prize for the German submarine crew in the first war to have major submarine engagement. May the crew rest in peace.

My wife's father was in WWI, having been a teenager, gassed in the trenches. He met General Pershing, a fellow Missourian, and later being treated at veterans hospitals he met Abbot and Costello and Bess Truman, the wife of Harry Truman, when Harry was a judge in the state of Missouri and Bess was doing volunteer work driving around patients from the veterans hospital.

Tom, on the news last night they stated the submarine commander radioed to other nearby shipping to alert them to the sinking ship despite him being the one that sunk it.

Many lives were saved...but of course many lost.

Regards,

Jay.

 

[mso489]

Interesting indeed. So 66 wasn't the entire crew, just the crewmen lost. I thought it was all hands. So the crew could have been somewhat larger. Fascinating that the sub commander sent out an SOS for the ship he'd just sunk. That was a uniquely humane and gentlemanly thing to do. I doubt he got a medal for that from his navy. That attitude quickly changed, on all sides.

 

[kcghost]

Very neat find. It is wonderful to see that an ally of ours would go to the trouble of finding such a lost vessel. It is important to remember the men who lost their lives in defense of others. It rest in water of about 328 feet (100) meters.

 

[mso489]

Is 328 feet scuba depth, or was this discovered using a robot or manned dive vehicle? That sounds toward the edge of scuba depth, but I'm not a diver. They didn't show divers or a vehicle in the video.

Just Googled, and recreational dives are about 100 feet, but professionals have gone as deep as 1090 feet, with stops to allow the adjustment to prevent the bends, I presume.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Yeh, I would think that the depth is what has protected this wreck for so long.