Worth Growing 20-30 Yenidje Plants Next Year?

[aquadoc]

I have been debating finding some "legit" Yenidje seeds to try grow my own next year. I have successfully grown Virginias and have worked on farms off and own since I was a child so the cultivation is not an issue. I can approximately match the soils to their historical growing area soils through amendments.

The question : if harvested and cured properly, will the characteristics be similar to the varietals grown back in the day? Is it worth the effort? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

 

[spicy_boiii]

I grew it, it grew very easily, sun cured easily, tasted great with that "unflavored soda" flavor. I say go for it. I thought Canik was very worthwhile as well.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Where it's grown affects tobaccos immensely.

 

[spicy_boiii]

I starved the stuff for water and grew it in very dry, hot conditions. Being that the esters or wax compounds that give Oriental tobacco it's signature flavor are produced in response to harsher environmental stimuli, I think my environment helped the final product. Terroir is a whole nother topic. What Embers is saying is not only true, but the source (if someone told you it was Yenidje would you trust them) is also another issue.

That's why I wouldn't get too hung up on trying to make an authentic match effort, and suggest not shying away from the strains like Canik that are fairly well known across seed sources and growers.

 

[aquadoc]

This is very helpful. I will be growing in a 35' wide by 100' greenhouse with a climate control system to maintain heat and humidity as preferred. I am looking at soil profiles across Xanthi and should be able to come damn close to the same profile and chemical composition. Nothing else will be grown during this experiment.

 

[Ahi Ka]

Exciting. I’ll be growing some Black Sea Maden this coming season. I’ll be interested to keep an eye on your progress for tips and results ??

 

[pantsBoots]

Drop us a link if you find Yenidje seeds commercially available. I looked and I looked and I looked and the closest I found was a "Xanthi" variety, which is apparently closely related to Basma. It's growing very well and has a smell of cardamom in hot, dry weather

 

[bluegrassbrian]

This is very helpful. I will be growing in a 35' wide by 100' greenhouse with a climate control system to maintain heat and humidity as preferred. I am looking at soil profiles across Xanthi and should be able to come damn close to the same profile and chemical composition. Nothing else will be grown during this experiment.

I'd be curious to know what you've found out about the soil characteristics and how you plan to match them.
I've always had a green thumb and love this part of the process, but I don't currently have much of an opportunity to because of living situation.

 

[Egg Shen]

I'd be curious to know what you've found out about the soil characteristics and how you plan to match them.
I've always had a green thumb and love this part of the process, but I don't currently have much of an opportunity to because of living situation.

Me too

 

[kcghost]

Good luck with your cultivation of Yenidje. I would be thoroughly flummoxed by your undertaking.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Soil, growing conditions, diseases all make a difference.
Following advice for your area for tomatoes should get you a yield. (Assuming there's not much online for growing tobacco in your area.)

Go for it! Good luck!

 

[Egg Shen]

Soil, growing conditions, diseases all make a difference.
Following advice for your area for tomatoes should get you a yield. (Assuming there's not much online for growing tobacco in your area.)

Go for it! Good luck!

Interesting- I didn’t know tobacco is a member of the nightshade family.

 

[anantaandroscoggin]

Every once in a while a topic reminds me of something I've been wondering off-and-on for a few years: Has anyone experimented with curing tomato leaves by any of the methods used for tobacco, in order to use them as a flavoring additive?

 

[AMDG]

I have been debating finding some "legit" Yenidje seeds to try grow my own next year. I have successfully grown Virginias and have worked on farms off and own since I was a child so the cultivation is not an issue. I can approximately match the soils to their historical growing area soils through amendments.

The question : if harvested and cured properly, will the characteristics be similar to the varietals grown back in the day? Is it worth the effort? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

I’d be very interested to know the conditions/climate/setup you cured the successful Virginia in if you’d be willing to share.

 

[karam]

Go for it! Though as Embers said, the place and practice of growing, as well as picking and curing affect what you get. “Orientals” are notoriously hard to reproduce outside of their growing regions.
For reference i grew some burley seeds in Greece two years ago and got something that tasted very much like Greek Basma.

 

[chilllucky]

This is very helpful. I will be growing in a 35' wide by 100' greenhouse with a climate control system to maintain heat and humidity as preferred. I am looking at soil profiles across Xanthi and should be able to come damn close to the same profile and chemical composition. Nothing else will be grown during this experiment.

I am jealous of your greenhouse! To what level are you able to amend? Are you mixing soil or is this a drip-fed hydro system? Local NPK levels are easy enough to find through university and government sources, but the less than one percent trace mineral - which is the real difference maker for the subtleties of terroir - stuff less so.