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sparroa

Lifer
Dec 8, 2010
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Well I find the closer I get to authority of any kind the more worried I get, it is most definitely not limited to the health care field!

 

baronsamedi

Lifer
May 4, 2011
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Yes, mostly LVNs. Definitely CNAs. Most of the RNs have it together, though. We had a nurse the other day threaten to catheter a patient because the patient called for restroom assistance too many times. Scary. Had that been my family member there would have been a killin'.

 

igloo

Lifer
Jan 17, 2010
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woodlands tx
The latest craze is Sleep Apnea . I looked at my Doctor and said , You dont think a reconstructed ankle that is bone on bone and facet joint disease has anything to do with my sleeping patterns do you . I need pain pills not a oxygen mask what are you a Fu.....g quack . Time to throw a dart at the phone book and get a new doctor . My new system for choosing health care seems to work as good or better than doctor referrals . One thing that will help you is never buy anything from the inside aisles of the grocery store . The only problem with that is finding a store that keeps icecream on a outside aisle . You cannot use this method of shopping at a convenience store unless you were after beer in the first place . One more thing I do now is tell them Iam allergic to Bactrim that one throws them for a loop and forces them to use thier medical training . It is my belief that most doctors prescribe what the insurance companys are willing to pay for or what the big pharma is pushing . There are wonderfull medications out there but you have to be able to afford them .

 

mick

Can't Leave
Aug 13, 2012
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My grandfather, a smoker, died of a heart attack at age 38 and my grandmother in her 60s of emphysema. Certainly, there were no "good ole days" where people were immune to ill health while eating lard and smoking all day.
One thing I find troubling about threads like these is that people seem to seek to reinforce and rationalize their pre-conceptions rather than challenge and question them.

 

pipesicle

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 31, 2012
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S.E.Iowa
This morning's radio byte was, Annual physicals do not lengthen your life or curb heart disease or cancer.

Personally, the fewer times you go to the doctor or the hospital the less chance you have of getting sick...imho.

 

numbersix

Lifer
Jul 27, 2012
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My grandfather, a smoker, died of a heart attack at age 38 and my grandmother in her 60s of emphysema
Good point Bulldog - this type of discussion can be a slippery slope.
Life comes with risks—that's what I think Burns was trying to say. Just driving to work is a risk. I once knew a fellow who ran (not jogged) 10 miles every single day. Was in tip top shape and died of a heart attack at the early age of 26.
I don't disagree that we should try to minimize certain risks but still, if you want an egg, eat an egg. Unfortunately the idea of "moderation" in all things seems to allude most people these days.

 

sixmp

Can't Leave
Jan 19, 2012
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I spoke about life and health risks etc with my father in law recently and he basically said...
Life your life in a way that makes you happy, give thought to being sensible and try not to do too much of anything. It is not worth the time or the effort to worry about everything that can kill you, there is so much to worry about that the worry itself can do more harm than good.
I think he summed it up well. imo

 

photoman13

Lifer
Mar 30, 2012
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Smoking causes cancer it is plain and simple. Everyone on my mom's side has died from cancer up to her great grandparents. Most of which was from smoking. Moderation is very important. They did however smoke cigarettes not pipes. In moderation my brothers.

 

lankfordjl

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 29, 2011
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Texas
@photoman
You are right but don't limit it to smoking! Almost anything can cause cell mutations. A few years ago, a research article came out that made a link between wearing tight shoes and skin cancers on the feet. ANY excessive irritation to cells can lead to cancer. Truly, humans develop cancerous cells all the time but our T-lymphocytes usually destroy the cells before a tumor develops. If we carry out what the FDA is doing to tobacco then everything from sugar to car fumes to soft drinks to microwaves to pizza...need a label that says MAY CAUSE CANCER.

 

sparroa

Lifer
Dec 8, 2010
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Lankford, I think I side with your opinion on all this most of all.
I have pondered the food that I eat, the air that I breathe, the water I drink, the products I use on my body, the plastics and chemicals I handle on a daily basis, the wounds I have received, the bacteria/viruses I may have unknowingly encountered, and only one thing is clear - any combination of them could be contributing to my demise...
That's supposing that you've got good genes! Even sometimes if you cut out most risk factors then the one indulgence that you chose yourself to have may very well be the one you are unwittingly sensitive to...
So, yes, moderation is truly the only way to go and even then you could be the engineer of your own downfall. Don't forget that stress is a killer itself! I'm worried about that most of all, I think. ;) LOL

 

lankfordjl

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 29, 2011
611
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Texas
@simenon
You have got it! Sounds like an excerpt from one of my lectures.
I am reminded of this passage,
"The wise person has his eyes in his head, but the fool walks in darkness. And yet I perceived that the same event happens to all of them. Then I said in my heart, "What happens to the fool will happen to me also. Why then have I been so very wise?" And I said in my heart that this also is vanity...How the wise dies just like the fool!"
I'm applying this to those who are "wise" about their health and those who are "fools" about their health. There is so much more yet to be learned.

 

mick

Can't Leave
Aug 13, 2012
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Unfortunately the idea of "moderation" in all things seems to allude most people these days.
Moderation in all things, including moderation. :lol:

 

baronsamedi

Lifer
May 4, 2011
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Dallas
All you have to do is take Micro/Pathology classes to realize everything around you is a lethal, contaminated surface hell-bent on killing you. Hell, stuff already in your body will kill you if other stuff doesn't keep the population under control. That's why I think the whole pro-biotic craze is funny. How much does the average person know about what's "normal" in terms of gut bacteria compared to how much they are spending to try and flood their boy with another bacteria they really know nothing about? That's assuming they are not already abusing their body with so many excesses that it counters all that stuff anyway.
I've mentioned before my family is genetically inclined toward longevity. Women live to be close to 100 and men live to mid to upper 80s. We do have risk factors like diabetes and blood clots, but I do what I can to mitigate those things. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about it and I give little to no attention to whatever the miracle drug or cure is because there is no such animal.
Another factor to consider is "medical science" relies often on grants from either the government or the pharmaceutical companies, so so-called research is often biased in favor of who is dealing out the grant money. This means that the ones who tell their benefactors what they want to hear get paid and those with conflicting results are unemployed.
It doesn't mean you have to eat nothing but roots and berries and dig a 40 mile hole to live in, but it does pay to educate yourself about what possible unintended consequences could be from taking the latest breakthrough medicine.

 

judcole

Lifer
Sep 14, 2011
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Detroit
But the truth is that lately, even though I like my GP, each time I get to see him I feel like the visit is more about him being able to claim certain number of patients seen in a day than it is about me being able to talk about my health. I always feel rushed while in his office… .
Gotta wonder how much of that is insurance companies.
I like my internist. Good guy,talks straight with me; I never feel rushed.
But I know - since I'm married to an RN (public health), and pay attention - that the desire by hospitals, insurance companies, etc. to make a profit,leads to cost cutting. That means fewer B.S.N. RNs on a hospital floor, and more work done by CNAs, LPNs, and so on. Keeps costs down. Which means increased profits.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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Most people who live long have good genes. The people who don't have good genes need to be on top of their medical condition at all times. All the woman in my family live to mid 90's, the men all died at 66-67. I am very conscious about my numbers and try to eat healthy. I don't want to end up dead in 12 years, but you never know. I have a good gp, heart doctor, neurosurgeon and urologist and see them yearly. I take my medications like I am supposed to but I also live life. I eat eggs but in moderation, bacon, steak, burgers, all the good stuff, but I don't over do it. I love fish so I eat a lot of that and chicken. I stay away from processed foods in a big way. My typical dinner is a protein with steamed veggies. I think if we are conscious of what we put in our bodies and be smart about getting your numbers checked you can head off problems before they arise. Of course you need good health insurance which is a fortune, but it beats doing nothing and dropping dead from something preventable.

 

photoman13

Lifer
Mar 30, 2012
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When I said the comment above I meant that I have to be extra careful because of my family history. I agree moderation in everything but we are on a pipe forum so I only mentioned pipe smoking. I'm sure I will die of cancer, it is inevitable. I won't let it rule my life but I also am trying to keep what I do within reason. I am glad Obama has extended health care for dependents up to age 26 or I would be shit out of luck when it comes to health insurance.
I also get fat easy so I have to watch what I eat. Light butter, turkey sausage and bacon for this guy. :D

 
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