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judcole

Lifer
Sep 14, 2011
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It's none of my damned business if a woman wants to smoke a pipe.

Just like it's not the business of the women on this forum if I want to.
Other than biological functions, there are no "male" or "female" behaviors. It's all cultural. As a guy with three grown daughters, if anyone had ever tried to tell me my girls shouldn't do something because it wasn't "ladylike", I would have ripped them a new one. The dirtiest words you could say in my house when they were at home were "girls can't do this".

 

igloo

Lifer
Jan 17, 2010
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5
woodlands tx
What ever blows your skirt up . But I have never seen a woman smoking a tobacco pipe unless the picture was before Kodachrome or shortly thereafter . :crazy:

 

snewton

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 18, 2012
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UK
With Mike on this one. Everyone is equal, that doesn't mean that Men and Women are the same.

I absolutely believe Women are equal to Men, however I also believe that We are each good at different things, generally speaking. Some things come more naturally to the Man and some to the Woman. Its Nature!

Of course there are always exceptions to the rule, and that is fine too :)

 

tbradsim1

Lifer
Jan 14, 2012
9,205
11,794
Southwest Louisiana
Mike is the voice of reason on this forum, that being said I"m saying this with a wry smile, with Jud berateing a new guy for Capitolazition, and saying there ain"t no difference between Men and Women I have come to the conclusion that he is Pussy Whipped. IMHO, that's my story and I"m sticking to it. The old cajun :rofl:

 

mirain

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 5, 2011
193
9
My girl isn't a tobacco user, never has been. However, I've encouraged her to try smoking the pipe in hopes she could better understand and feel the peace and serenity it affords. Unfortunately, she didn't like it. She clearly enjoys watching me smoke and never complains about the room note (or lack thereof). Is it ladylike? My answer is simple: Sexy is as sexy does.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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57,308
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Sarasota Florida
I think a woman who smokes is hot looking so if they enjoy it then by all means go for it. I am not one for double standards so what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

javajunkie

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 26, 2013
160
2
I find it interesting how many answers equate "lady like" and "sexy". But, that's just me.
In my view, both the contemplative aspect of good tobacco and the counterpoint, the social nature of it's sharing, would seem to be perfectly fit to be "lady like", and cultural gender roles we are all brought up with would be the deterrent for more women to enjoy the leaf, which is a shame. And, FWIW, I support anyone who can find a non-destructive way to give a moment's peace and pleasure to their life, in whatever form; I love my tobacco, support those who do as well, and those who choose not to from an informed viewpoint.
And chicks smoking can be VERY sexy, I do have to admit! o)

 

judcole

Lifer
Sep 14, 2011
7,425
38,096
Detroit
ain"t no difference between Men and Women
You guys need to work on your reading skills. :P I didn't say there was no difference between men and women; I said that the culture defines behaviors as male or female. If you don't realize that, you've got a lot to learn.

 

eazye77

Starting to Get Obsessed
Aug 21, 2012
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So correct me if I'm wrong, the majority of you are saying that pipe smoking is a unisex hobby?

 

judcole

Lifer
Sep 14, 2011
7,425
38,096
Detroit
on the whole, boys tend to like "boy things", and girls tend to like "girl things"
That has nothing to do,of course, with the fact that adults encourage them to when they do behaviors considered appropriate for their sex, and discourage them from behaviors they feel are not appropriate for their sex. Or that the entire society constantly bombards them with messages on that issue.
physically incapable

Sure - that's totally related to physical characteristics. Men, as a rule, are larger then women. Women can play football - there are female only leagues. They just can't, as a rule, play on an equal footing with men.

 

guhrillastile

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 29, 2013
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Just me but here's my thoughts. I am fully aware of how completely rediculous this may sound to those that feel life should be fair. But in all honesty its how I feel. I think woman smoking cigarettes as natural and don't think much about it. But ladies with cigars, pipes, or chew is abnormal. I adore pipes. I like building them, collecting them, and relaxing and smoking them. But I definately think its a male oriented device.
Do I think there is something WRONG with a woman smoking a pipe? Of course not if they enjoy it. But as most women in MY EXPERIENCE go. They muddy the water by playing the sexy card. It's not sexy to me at all. So if they are smoking for enjoyment? Great. If just poking around, or trying it? Sure. Go for it. My rules only apply to me. So please do what you like...I won't get in your way.
In short. Taking an interest in friends, significant others, or a spouses hobbies and interests is the best thing anyone could ever ask for. But it is what it is. And when its transparent is an irritant regardless of gender or application. But that's just me.

 

judcole

Lifer
Sep 14, 2011
7,425
38,096
Detroit
I just want to be clear, here...Is it truly your position that there are absolutely zero differences between men and women, psychologically or emotionally, except those that are forced upon them by society's preconceived notions about what men and women should be?
I never said anything remotely like that! There are huge biological differences, which I mentioned in my original comments.

I said that all behaviors are human behaviors, not "male behaviors" or "female behaviors". The idea of what is "manly" or "ladylike" varies from culture to culture, and changes, over time, within a given culture. This is not a radical idea. Any one studying child development (or even basic psychology), anthropology, or who reads social history, is aware of this.

Two very simple examples. In the United States, before Prohibition,it was not considered "ladylike" for a woman to go into a bar, saloon, or other establishment that sold alcoholic beverages. Women did go into those places, but those who did were not considered "ladies" - they were dance hall girls, prostitutes,or other women of ill-repute. (You don't need to read history to be aware of this. It shows up in hundreds of old Western movies and novels. That was certainly fact-based, and not unique to the American frontier.)

Prohibition changed all of that. A women who goes into a bar is not considered to be a "loose woman". Eyebrows may be raised if she is in some bars, especially by herself, but a woman can go have a drink with friends, male or female, and very few people think anything of it.
Another example. As recently as the 1950s, it wasn't really considered "manly" for men to be involved in the care of children, even their own, especially when they were small. If they did so, it was considered to be outside their usual duties as a father, and were forgiven for being clumsy at it. How many 1950s/60s sitcom episodes were based on dad being left alone with the kids, and being befuddled?

Although some people probably still hold to those ideas, modern young dads are frequently very hands on with their kids, and are glad to be involved in a variety of child care tasks that were left to women 50 years ago.
We shape children's behavior from their earliest days. Baby girls are much more apt to be given "girl toys", while baby boys are more apt to be given soft versions of "boy toys". Infants are encouraged, by approving noises from their parents, as they reach around blindly in a play space, when they touch a toy considered appropriate for their gender. All of this is changing over time - but male infants are not born with a preference for toy trucks, say, while their sisters are born with a preference for dolls.
If a woman wants to smoke a pipe,go for it! It's not manly or ladylike; it just is. Fellas, if you have a problem with it, it's your problem, not hers.

 

eibhir

Can't Leave
Jan 16, 2013
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Fascinating discussion here. I personally don't find smoking of any kind sexy, it's the one doing the smoking that I find attractive. If you break it down to its basic parts any form of smoking is amusing. Cigarettes and cigars are phallic shapes that you light to a smolder and suck on to get pleasure from. A pipe has a more feminine feel in packing the bowl and gently lighting the embers, usually multiple times, but your still sucking on a stem to induce pleasure. The smoke exhaled is reminiscent of past pleasures and dragons.

There are differences between male and female, but they compliment each other and smoking is definately a unisex enjoyment. We are culturally trained to see pipe smoking as masculine because, in my opinion, females are too busy to have the time to enjoy it. Smoking a pipe by anyone is symbolic of quiet and reflection, a sense of peace and repose that is now frowned upon by most of our hectic go go society. Whether we are male or female we all look silly smoking our pipes as the world races by.

 
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