Will Italian Makers Ever Switch Back to Ebonite/Vulcanite Stems?

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spike

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Thirty five of my pipes have acrylic stems. I have 4 Walt Hettingers and they have ebonite stems, but I’ve seen no discoloration. I find acrylic attractive and idiot proof in terms of maintenance. I do use rubber softy bits on all my pipes.
 
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Mike N

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georged

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BOTH acrylic and vulcanite range from absolute crap to jaw-droppingly good.

Examples of each can be found which would delight people who thought they hated it.

The same is true when it comes to cutting, shaping, polishing, and working with the stuff.
 

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Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
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@Mike N Luca of Tabaccheria Corti knows the Radice brothers, so if you wanted to order something from them, contact Luca to have the Radices make a Cumberland stem.


I actually sent off a Radice to an artisian carver to get a Cumberland stem made for it. You can always do the same…
 
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georged

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PS ---

There's a third option that has the mouth feel of rubber but doesn't oxidize. It's also lighter in weight.

No "catch" except it's best to use a Delrin tenon with the stuff, and though you wouldn't think so, properly gluing tenons of any kind into a stem is a bit of a minefield. As reliable as gravity when done right, but will come loose when done wrong. (And is difficult to RE-do properly if it detaches)

The name of the material is "Eldritch".

No factory I know of uses it, though, only artisan makers.
 
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I am a clencher and prefer acrylic. I have an eye tooth that sinks into any material, but the acrylic makes a simple dimple and fits perfect. My vulcanite looks terrible from tooth chatter and oxidation, even with maintenance and keeping out of the sun. I don't find other materials to feel any 'softer' on my teeth.
 

spike

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The most comfortable acrylic stems I’ve found are the old GBD Perspex stems. They’re just a bit difficult to clean out to keep clear.
 
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Lifer
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Another thought: Sometimes what one person thinks is best is not what another person considers the best. It's a matter of personal taste.

A case in point: Years ago I was taken out to eat at what was considered to be a fine Indian restaurant. Most of the dishes reminded me of Gerber's baby food. I hated it. Then, several years later, I consented to go with some friends for lunch at a small, out of the way, Indian cafe. Wow, the food was great, not at all like the puke I had before. I later mentioned this to an Indian friend and he asked me what cafe it was. I told him, and he said "I know that joint, they're food is like what the laborers and truck drivers eat back home!" puffy
 
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Piping Abe

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Oct 27, 2021
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I’ve never smoked an Italian pipe that didnt have a gigantic stem/button. Regardless of material. Even the artisan guys make gignatic stems. No idea why. I’ll never buy another pipe from Italy
 
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PS ---

There's a third option that has the mouth feel of rubber but doesn't oxidize. It's also lighter in weight.

No "catch" except it's best to use a Delrin tenon with the stuff, and though you wouldn't think so, properly gluing tenons of any kind into a stem is a bit of a minefield. As reliable as gravity when done right, but will come loose when done wrong. (And is difficult to RE-do properly if it detaches)

The name of the material is "Eldritch".

No factory I know of uses it, though, only artisan makers.