Why people hate aromatics
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I think this point is already been beat up but my thoughts are typical to other posts....SMOKE WHAT YOU LIKE, if someone else objects, WHO CARES......
About the headline on this thread, I don't think many Forums members hate aromatics. I like them occasionally as a smoke, and regularly as a pillar of support for tobacco blenders. A few enthusiasts shun aromatics because they feel they have graduated to "real" blends in the non-aromatics, but most of us smoke an occasional aro as a change of pace, at least, and acknowledge that for some experienced smokers, aromatics are still their favorites. Aromatic smokers sure have a better chance with a good room note and hence domestic tranquility. I do love my non-aromatics, but I'm not trying to stage direct anyone else's taste.
I'm sorry to have to say it, but your review bears the unmistakable tinge of the usual aesthetic and moral opprobrium of the 'snob'.
Instead of telling us why we like aromatics, why don't you ask us? Because I assure you, in nine cases out of ten, fleshlights and beer don't enter in to it!
Now I'm off to write a lengthy monograph on the habits and mores of those who listen to metal instead of real music! :rofl:
Instead of telling us why we like aromatics, why don't you ask us? Because I assure you, in nine cases out of ten, fleshlights and beer don't enter in to it!
Now I'm off to write a lengthy monograph on the habits and mores of those who listen to metal instead of real music! :rofl:
I may be an unsophisticated pipe smoker. I have only been at it for slightly less than a year. I started with, and still love, Mississippi River and several of the Frog Mortons as well as a growing collection of other English and Virginia blends. I mention that just to make sure I include the fact that I smoke, and enjoy "real tobacco." That said, I also really enjoy an occassional bowl of Cult Blood Red Moon, Sleepy Hollow, and Bat With A Hat. I don't find it to be a shadow of a real experience or anything else "less than" my enjoyment of English and Virgina tobaccos. If people do, they shouldn't buy or smoke flavored blends. What I don't understand is the fairly regular attempts by some to suggest that those of us who do enjoy flavored blends are somehow not able to understand or appreciate what constitutes a good bowl of tobacco. To each is own. I'm going to continue to smoke and enjoy both.
It is interesting reading everyone's opinions, but I feel that a lot of statements are painting aromatics with a broad brush.
I have smoked A LOT of different blends over my years of smoking a pipe and a lot of them have been aromatics.
Aromatics like all other kind of tobacco (as well as most other things like wine, beer, and food) have good blends and some not so good blends.
I have smoked some drug store brand aro's that I found quite pleasant and I have also smoked blends that were made by bigger well known pipe tobacco manufacturers that I found to be lacking or simply not very good at all.
Tastes, and even flavors, are very subjective. I have smoked tobacco (cigars and pipe) that others love, but I didn't care for in the least and there has been tobaccos that I love that others hate.
I do agree with Chasingembers that smoking aromatics and getting the most out of the experience requires more time, technique, and more of a learning curve.
I believe that some of the reasons that most people try aromatics at the beginning are;
-memories of the room note of a relative or someone else's pipe smoke when they were younger
-the aroma of the tobacco in the jar/tin
-the overall conception of what most people who have not smoked a pipe before think what pipe tobacco is
To get the most flavors out of tobacco, you want the smoke to be as cool as possible. The same is true for cigars. For those of you who smoke them, next time try to take very small puffs. Almost like sipping on the cigars instead of large puffs that create a lot of smoke. I have done this and I can taste a lot more flavors in the cigar. The same is even more true for pipes.
I believe that this is why a lot of people tend to go for more boldly flavored tobacco (ex: Latakia in pipes and Corojo in cigars). Because it doesn't require a lot of technique to get flavors from it. Don't forget that Latakia is an aromatic tobacco. It is flavored from the smoke from the burning wood.
This is why, in my opinion, so may people get tongue bite from aromatics. They are puffing too hard and too often searching for the flavor profile. By doing this it heats up the tobacco too much causing bitterness, bite, too much moisture, etc.
I find it very difficult to believe that all of the people who smoked Middleton Cherry, Mixture 79 and all of the the other misc. cherry and flavored blends up until the 1970's or so before all of the "artisan type" blends became more widespread, as suffering through endless bite with no enjoyment. Who would someone smoke a pipe for 50 years and suffer tongue bite everyday and no enjoyment? They had to enjoy it or they would have stopped smoking pipes.
Don't get me wrong, there are some bad aromatics out there. But there are also bad VA, VA/Per, and Latakia blends as well.
I think aromatics get a bad wrap because a lot of people think that if you smoke them then you are not an experienced pipe smoker. If that is the case I guess I'm very inexperienced :lol: .
If you don't like aro's and never smoke them, that's great. If you love them and smoke them exclusively, that's great too.
Smoke what you like and like what you smoke.
I have smoked A LOT of different blends over my years of smoking a pipe and a lot of them have been aromatics.
Aromatics like all other kind of tobacco (as well as most other things like wine, beer, and food) have good blends and some not so good blends.
I have smoked some drug store brand aro's that I found quite pleasant and I have also smoked blends that were made by bigger well known pipe tobacco manufacturers that I found to be lacking or simply not very good at all.
Tastes, and even flavors, are very subjective. I have smoked tobacco (cigars and pipe) that others love, but I didn't care for in the least and there has been tobaccos that I love that others hate.
I do agree with Chasingembers that smoking aromatics and getting the most out of the experience requires more time, technique, and more of a learning curve.
I believe that some of the reasons that most people try aromatics at the beginning are;
-memories of the room note of a relative or someone else's pipe smoke when they were younger
-the aroma of the tobacco in the jar/tin
-the overall conception of what most people who have not smoked a pipe before think what pipe tobacco is
To get the most flavors out of tobacco, you want the smoke to be as cool as possible. The same is true for cigars. For those of you who smoke them, next time try to take very small puffs. Almost like sipping on the cigars instead of large puffs that create a lot of smoke. I have done this and I can taste a lot more flavors in the cigar. The same is even more true for pipes.
I believe that this is why a lot of people tend to go for more boldly flavored tobacco (ex: Latakia in pipes and Corojo in cigars). Because it doesn't require a lot of technique to get flavors from it. Don't forget that Latakia is an aromatic tobacco. It is flavored from the smoke from the burning wood.
This is why, in my opinion, so may people get tongue bite from aromatics. They are puffing too hard and too often searching for the flavor profile. By doing this it heats up the tobacco too much causing bitterness, bite, too much moisture, etc.
I find it very difficult to believe that all of the people who smoked Middleton Cherry, Mixture 79 and all of the the other misc. cherry and flavored blends up until the 1970's or so before all of the "artisan type" blends became more widespread, as suffering through endless bite with no enjoyment. Who would someone smoke a pipe for 50 years and suffer tongue bite everyday and no enjoyment? They had to enjoy it or they would have stopped smoking pipes.
Don't get me wrong, there are some bad aromatics out there. But there are also bad VA, VA/Per, and Latakia blends as well.
I think aromatics get a bad wrap because a lot of people think that if you smoke them then you are not an experienced pipe smoker. If that is the case I guess I'm very inexperienced :lol: .
If you don't like aro's and never smoke them, that's great. If you love them and smoke them exclusively, that's great too.
Smoke what you like and like what you smoke.
Nate, if they are advertising falsely, committing fraud, sue 'em. Win and you'll never want for money again.
Nate, if they are advertising falsely, committing fraud, sue 'em. Win and you'll never want for money again. Make it a class action and a lot of people will deify you and, you'll never want for money again. Go get tiger! And, good luck. I'll be rooting for you even as I bet against you.
I don't smoke aros, as a rule, because I am not looking for that sort of taste. I got a tin of McClelland's Holiday Spirit for that year a few years back. I tried to smoke it. It was high quality, but it was way too sweet for me.
That being said - I attended the fancy dinner at the Chicago Pipe Show, and got a tin of Larsen 150 Anniversary in the goody bag. I avoided opening it for quite a while, but finally did. It's pretty good - very light flavoring. I am enjoying smoking it - not a lot, maybe one bowl a week out of the 2 dozen I smoke. I will probably explore some more of Larsen's line. I can't see smoking a lot of these, and I still want nothing to do with these super sweet aros. I don't want candy; I want tobacco. :
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That being said - I attended the fancy dinner at the Chicago Pipe Show, and got a tin of Larsen 150 Anniversary in the goody bag. I avoided opening it for quite a while, but finally did. It's pretty good - very light flavoring. I am enjoying smoking it - not a lot, maybe one bowl a week out of the 2 dozen I smoke. I will probably explore some more of Larsen's line. I can't see smoking a lot of these, and I still want nothing to do with these super sweet aros. I don't want candy; I want tobacco. :
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See, this is where all of you are wrong. The aro smoker gets more women than the stinkers... They are constantly stealing the stinkers women too :D
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