Why Does One Pipe Get so Much Hotter Than Others?

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jlarue

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I am relatively new to pipe smoking. It took me a while to get the hang of what smoking slowly and sipping your pipe. So here is my question after about a year of trying to figure it all out. I have a Peterson System pipe that the bowl gets really hot. other pipes I have are not having this issue, I have a Decature, Dr. Grabo, and several different corn cobs from Missouri Meecham, and they all get warm but not like the Peterson. Do Peterson pipes get that much hotter? Is there something wrong with the particular pipe I have? If I smoke any slower, I have to re-light the pipe each draw.

 

jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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Thickness of chamber wall, including cake or the absence thereof, and conductivity of that particular piece of briar.
(Are you smoking the same tobacco in all the pipes?)

 

mso489

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Feb 21, 2013
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Mostly what jpm says. Some blends burn hot, especially the ones that burn fast, but even they won't make a thick bowl briar heat up. Clay pipes are nearly always too hot to hold by the bowl. The Petersons are usually plenty thick bowled for most blends, but I'm sure there are exceptions.

 

panamacharlie

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Jun 13, 2016
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I have two Peterson Systems. One of them, the one with the thicker bowl, is the hottest smoking pipe I own! But I still like it a lot.

 
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Every piece of briar is different, therefore you can have two pipes identical in shape and one may smoke hotter than the other. As it is of course then with pipes that are not identical in shape. As far as your question on if something is wrong with the pipe... probably not, and among all of my pipes my Petersons are some of my coolest briars. But as has been mentioned, some blends burn hotter than others. Try different blends in that pipe and find one that doesn't heat up the bowl as much. And check your packing. If your packing it so tight that you have to keep puffing on it to keep it lit (remember, however, relights are ok as long as it's not going out constantly) it's going to get hot. I have a fairly new Stanwell that burns fold and stuffed flakes extremely well, but boy that sucker gets hot if I'm not careful with my smoking cadence, so I have to remember to smoke light and slow with it. But I'm certain with time and just a little more cake buildup (as I keep my cake very thin anyway) the pipe will be a bit more forgiving. It shouldn't be too hard as it's smoked quite often as it's already one of my favorite pipes. If you're smoking mostly virginia blends which can burn hot, try something with burley, or even black cavendish to see if that pipes smokes a bit cooler with those kinds of blends. As a condiment, some burleys or black cavendish are added to a blend to help it burn cooler. Try a Virginia/Burley blend.

 

Chasing Embers

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If there were any truth in natural selection, nature would have kicked humans out years ago. Nature isn't perfect, but beautiful in its imperfection. Density of Briar varies, as can its ability to conduct heat.

 
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The tobacco has some impact but I am convinced the wood is the main culprit. I've had several pipes with thicker walls that got much hotter than thinner walled pipes smoking the exact same tobacco.

 

Chasing Embers

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Lacquered pipes, such as many of Peterson's offerings, seem to retain heat more in my experience.

 

npod

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Jun 11, 2017
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Someone could literally write a book on this one topic. So many variables.
However, all things equal, two pipes of the same shape from the same carver can smoke differently. One could smoke hotter for example. That’s often what guys mean when they say “a good smoker” or “a bad smoker”. Some pipes just smoke hot, but again there are hundreds of other reasons, including the smoker’s technique that are more likely at play.

 
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Anthony R:I have encountered Just the same experience with almost my every new Stanwells of which I removed pre-carbonation, probably I should not have done that, but now after some ten carefully smoked bowls they seem to start settling down.

 

jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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Some pipes just smoke hot, but again there are hundreds of other reasons, including the smoker’s technique that are more likely at play.
All things being equal (which never happens!) it's the conductivity of the briar. Density (mostly the conditions under which it was grown) and type of solid matter (silicates?) absorbed as its growing make the difference.

 

irishearl

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Aug 2, 2016
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My vote for culprit is smoking cadence. None of my 45-ish pipes, lacquered, non-lacquered, smooth, blasted, rusticated, Peterson, Stanwell, Sav, Nording, etc. get hot.

 
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My vote for culprit is smoking cadence. None of my 45-ish pipes, lacquered, non-lacquered, smooth, blasted, rusticated, Peterson, Stanwell, Sav, Nording, etc. get hot.
How do you explain it then when you have 45 pipes that smoke fine, purchase the 46th and the bowl gets too hot to hold after 5 to 10 puffs? I will buy into it being the person smoking it if all or most of their pipes smoke too hot. I one pipe out of around 35 that smokes significantly hotter than the others. It has thicker bowl walls than a number of my other pipes. I smoke the same tobacco in it that I smoke in a number of other pipes. I actually consciously smoke it slower to see if that could be the cause. It still gets hot. The only logical conclusion I can draw is it's the wood.

 

Chasing Embers

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After removing the lacquer from my Big Ben dromedary, the bowl only gets warm. Prior to the removal, it would get very hot, and as slow as I smoke, that was odd. Not suggesting that briar breathes, just that the lacquer wasn't allowing the heat to dissipate.

 

jaytex1969

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I noticed one of my pipes gets hotter than the others.
It's the one I'm smoking! :nana:
The purty morta I just bought is proving to be a real challenge to smoke. Thin walls and a tall chamber, one can sear fingers 45 seconds into the smoke.
Still looking for that magic combo. Gives me something to do when bored.
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irishearl

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Aug 2, 2016
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Closest I have to a hot smoker is my 1 and only meer. Yet, prevailing wisdom is that they smoke cooler. :) Though will say that the only clay pipe I owned which broke got impossibly hot to smoke. Needed oven mitts for that 1.

 
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