Why Buy a New Pipe After Smoking Used Estate Pipes?

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thomasw

Lifer
Dec 5, 2016
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I love all sources of pipes, new ones, custom, estate, hand-me-downs, etc...
+1
Though most of my pipes are estates, usually I like the process of smoking a new pipe to season it. Some newer Petes have been a bit of a PITA to break in; but that's an exception that proves my general rule: for the most part breaking in a pipe is very enjoyable. But I do love estates once I have cleaned them; seasoned briar just has a wonderful familiarity.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,263
30,342
Carmel Valley, CA
Having said that, there's nothing like the nutty taste of high quality briar for the first few bowls...that's the caviar of the pipe world...
For you and Michael, you could get some briar made into veneer strips, and then line the bowl with a very thin layer of new nutty goodness any time you wanted that new briar taste!

 

generalzod

Lurker
Sep 29, 2014
41
24
Philadelphia
Estate pipes also seem like the wise choice for new smokers. New smokers come up against a fairly steep learning curve with packing, lighting, cadence, etc. It seems unnecessary to also take on the burden of trying to properly cake their pipes. That said, I like the idea that an estate pipe brings with it a bit of history.

 

nevadablue

Lifer
Jun 5, 2017
1,192
4
Excellent idea on the liner! LOL... I wonder if anyone makes briar veneer? Like lining a cedar chest only different.
Another aspect of this that I touched on above is the 'fixer' in me. Last night I sat on the floor in my office (I like to sit on the floor, the work surface is much larger) and spread out the boxes of estates to be repaired. Each has a plastic bag holding it and the stem I have chosen. I got many of my estates sans stem. I have close to 20 (forgot to count) laid out for resuscitation now. Some will be easy, some difficult. But the process gives me a pass time and I can't always go outside to smoke. Like now, it is blowing snow.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,238
119,159
Well we know that Chasingembers is speaking a little tongue-in-cheek because of his annual Bruce Weaver commission.
Actually not at all. Bruce has all but retired to spend time with his family, and now having seven of his pipes, its very unlikely that will happen again.

 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
5,369
4,685
Tennessee
Bruce has all but retired to spend time with his family
Thank God I got one then. LOOOOVE it!
I would no more smoke a discarded pipe than wear discarded hat.
I'm with you on hats... and shoes. Eww. Yes. And shoes. I can clean a pipe to a standard I am comfy with. I keep thinking of headlice and foot fungus with hats and shoes.

 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,175
15,012
The Arm of Orion
I'm with Warren on this. To me, a pipe is as personal an item as a toothbrush. Brand new all the way. (Which means you guys won't have to worry about me beating you to a collector's piece. 8) )

 

hawky454

Lifer
Feb 11, 2016
5,338
10,234
Austin, TX
I actually enjoy the process of breaking in a new pipe. It's like breaking in a pair of good boots, I don't wan't to let someone else do that for me. That being said, I have nothing against a professionally cleaned up estate pipe.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,263
30,342
Carmel Valley, CA
So would be the china, napkins, water and wine glasses, table cloth and everything the food's been prepared in or on. I guess I get on board with hats that might not be clean, but my only Gucci's, in "minty" condition, are estate pieces, but cost $25, not over $700. YM will vary.

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,349
18,534
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
It has nothing to do with health concerns. Hell, I can have a hat cleaned and blocked any time. No, it has to do with personal choice. I buy a pipe to smoke, not to restore to smoking condition any more than I would buy a house needing restoration. There are people who enjoy doing both. More power to them. It's simply not my idea of fun.
I don't buy a new pipe simply to have a new pipe. The pipe, as I've iterated before, must catch my eye from the display. Then, I must fondle and inspect it. It has to feel correct in my fist, fit my eye with it's proportions, luster, grain, fittings, etc. If a used pipe had the proper provenance proving it to have been one of Clemens' or Hitchcock's I would possibly buy it as bit of history but, never to smoke. It would merely be an artifact. And, I am certainly not going to waste either my moneys nor a sellers sending pipes back and forth in the mail until I find one meeting my standards.
So, no mail ordered, used pipes for me.
The man asked the question. When I answered I didn't understand I could be called on to defend my position. Nor do I understand the conflating of the "used pipe" with restaurant paraphernalia which are usually under a bit of control from government agencies and the owners wish not to sicken customers.
I do buy cobs by the card full but, they are working pipes, disposables as it were. Other than that, my next pipe, and there will be at least one more, will be a virgin and meet my own criteria.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,263
30,342
Carmel Valley, CA
I'm same wrt not buying pipes I can't inspect first hand. One or two exceptions.
No, it has to do with personal choice. I buy a pipe to smoke, not to restore to smoking condition any more than I would buy a house needing restoration. There are people who enjoy doing both. More power to them. It's simply not my idea of fun.
You omit those estate pipes that are already restored. The fastidious among us will do our own cleaning before smoking just in case. B+Ms and pipe shows are the main sources for estates that meet all the criteria I have including the hands on.

 

fitzy

Lifer
Nov 13, 2012
2,937
28
NY
I don't get what's so horrible about breaking a new pipe. For me that's just a silly excuse to not buy a new pipe.

 

stickframer

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 11, 2015
875
8
Having bought my first two estates a couple months ago (one from an antique shop, one on the 'bay), I think I'll stick with new pipes from now on.
Estates, to me, are a crap shoot and it'd be prudent for me steer clear, if only because I lack the knowledge/skill/desire to buy/clean/learn about them. Those who possess these qualities- go for it say I!
I like breaking in pipes, and am slowing down on purchasing, so am doing less breaking in. Only one pipe, irc, was a chore to break in.
I'd like to add that one of the estates was from a specific maker and period I value. I have it, now endeth my search.

 
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