Why are some pipes “expensive”?

Log in

SmokingPipes.com Updates

Watch for Updates Twice a Week

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

sardonicus87

Lifer
Jun 28, 2022
1,818
16,252
38
Lower Alabama
And that leads to less discussion and defeats the purpose of the forum. The same reason that links for answers to questions are frowned upon.
Yeah, but a line needs be drawn somewhere, there's several topics that are just way far and beyond too repetitive.

What good is discussion if the topic is so repetitive that the only response becomes a collective groan and "ugh, not again"?
 

burleyboy75

Starting to Get Obsessed
May 22, 2025
168
332
Ohio
Good discussions….I’m starting to understand a little better now.
I get where you're coming from, brother. I seen a 12K lighter on SP the other day


I get luxury goods, "value what guy willing to pay," eye of the beholder, FU money, disposable income, etc, but I think there has to be an objective line somewhere, no? maybe not. Dunhill is legendary, but wooh. CAPITALISM!!!!!, etc, fill in blank, etc, etc, etc. But i commiserate with ya and know what ya mean.
 

Briarcutter

Lifer
Aug 17, 2023
2,084
11,605
U.S.A.
Can you tell me where in my post did it smack of envy and jealousy - Or did you bother to read it?

Besides - without asking questions and having discussions, how can one learn more about it?

“I’m mainly trying to learn, especially for the day I finally decide to treat myself to a higher-end pipe. Up to now I’ve actually preferred rusticated finishes, mostly because I’m afraid of dinging up a nice smooth one.”
You did no wrong, carry on. I would however suggest this. If you're going to get serious about high end pipes I'd suggest going to a large pipe show, like Chicago. There you can see in your hands the different makers, fit,finish and compare. I think its the best way to experience a vast number of makers. B&M's are great but you won't find many high end artisan makers there these days.
 
Last edited:

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
8,075
46,303
73
Sydney, Australia
And that's why we shouldn't worry. It used to take a lot of money to get a truly good product; not anymore. I'm not bothered by someone spending $10,000 on a Rolex when my $500 Seiko makes me happy. To each their own, and everyone's happy.
Or you can buy a “genuine fake” Ralex or Rolox from China for $10.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Alejo R.

ziv

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 19, 2024
637
4,005
South Florida
Pipe smoking and cigars are luxury items and activities. This isn’t food and shelter nor medical necessity. Top shelf tobacco especially aged and rare including cigars have never been cheap. I don’t know what your time is worth but if I’m taking 8 hours and materials to make a pipe or a widget I’m going to be paid for it and I fully support and expect any artisan to get all they can for their creativity and work. If someone wants to get a nicotine fix on the cheap then get a corn pipe or a kaywoodie and smoke supervalue shag. This talk about expensive pipes and tobacco always smacks of envy and jealousy. Even if I felt that way I certainly wouldn’t share it in public and expose my weaknesses to the world. Buck up man and have some pride!
Well, your post smacks of snobbism.
 

DonutLuvr

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 12, 2019
286
2,225
SW Ohio
You did no wrong, carry on. I would however suggest this. If you're going to get serious about high end pipes I'd suggest going to a large pipe show, like Chicago. There you can see in your hands the different makers, fit,finish and compare. I think its the best way to experience a vast number of makers. B&M's are great but you won't find many high end artisan makers there these days.
Solid advice. I’ve been to the NASPC pipe show once, 6 years ago when I first started smoking a pipe - there were so many vendors.

I didn’t know what I didn’t know at the time and didn’t know what to ask. I do plan on going to that one again this next year, it actually falls on a day off for me!
 

HeadMisfit

Can't Leave
Oct 15, 2025
455
316
For most of the pipe smoking world, the purchase of an expensive pipe is merely to acquire personal prestige.

It's like the urban cowboy, spends 90k on a truck, 400$ on cowboy boots, 200$ on a hat. And does nothing but go to work and the grocery store in it. It's like an off roading magazine published, 90% of off road equipped jeeps never see off road driving. They stay on pavement. At best a gravel drive way.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
18,342
33,318
47
Central PA a.k.a. State College
I know “expensive” depends on the buyer, but I’m still trying to understand why certain pipes carry such a big price tag compared to others.

My collection is small—maybe 25 pipes total. Mostly Savinelli and Peterson, a Butz-Choquin, a couple of meers, some cobs, a turn-of-the-century pipe that a generous member here gifted me during a past Santa exchange, and a handful of Wilbur Swinks freehands. The thing is, some of the cheapest ones I own smoke the best and feel the most natural in my hand.

The Swinks pipes are especially meaningful to me since they were my dad’s. He smoked those when I was a kid, before he quit, and they were made not far from where I live. I remember going to that tobacco shop and watching them make pipes when I was young before the business ultimately became no more. So they’ve got a sentimental value nothing else in the collection can really touch.

I don’t think I’ve ever spent more than about $200 on a new pipe. I’ve been smoking for a little over six years, and most of my money has always gone into tobacco I enjoy and want to cellar. Pipes have been more of a slow, steady thing.

But I keep seeing artisan pipes going for $500, $750, even $1,000 or more. I get that the market decides the price, but I’m wondering: is it mainly the maker’s name? The grain? The shaping? Something else? I appreciate the craftsmanship—some of them really are works of art—but at the end of the day they’re still just tools for smoking tobacco, right?

I’m mainly trying to learn, especially for the day I finally decide to treat myself to a higher-end pipe. Up to now I’ve actually preferred rusticated finishes, mostly because I’m afraid of dinging up a nice smooth one.

Curious to hear everyone’s thoughts.
It depends. Artisan pipes cost more for several reasons, the biggest is time. A factory can make several complete ready to ship out pipes a day. Where a none factory made pipe takes several days. The other thing is that if you're making one pipe at a time by hand you can shape it for grain, it's easier to carve it so there are no pits.
With factory pipes it seems like one thing that drives up price is quality control and standards. Those standards are often mostly cosmetic but not always. That means more time and materials are used to get that particular pipe to market. Especially time really.
Those in my opinion are the logical reasons some pipes must cost more then others.
Labor is a good percentage of the price. Which is why country of origin can effect prices.
There is also a certain amount of name and we can charge that amount.
And what's often perplexing to people who aren't kind of idiots in my opinion. Is that for some people high price is a value in and of it's self. Basically if the pleabes can't afford it then it's better, even if for no other reason then it limits who owns one. If I see you smoking a certain pipe I know you're serious enough about smoking to waste money.
As far as smoking quality? That's all a matter of opinion at the end of the day. It's more like finding a dance partner, it's more about how well you work with each other then them being better then others.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
18,342
33,318
47
Central PA a.k.a. State College
The thing is, some of the cheapest ones I own smoke the best and feel the most natural in my hand.
Of course. A cheaper pipe is about utility and for the company to make money they need to move volume. An expensive pipe has to really appeal strongly to a smaller number of people. That often means it has to be unique and unique increases the chance of the pipe being somewhat akward to handle.
If you look at the old ads the cheaper and mid pipes talk about smoking quality. The expensive pipes talk about showing off and being fashionable.