That's a really good idea, thanks for the tip. I'd heard filtered pipes are basically standard over in Europe. And I'll put my location in the profile, thanks.
Why are estate pipes ok?
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You wont find many filtered pipes in Italy or France...except the French love stingers and some pipes still have them.
In the north you will find quite a few. Haddocks in the Netherlands has a lot. There photos are terrible but they have a good stock.
Germany is one of the few places you can find Italian makes with 9mm. I guess they make them special for that market since its the biggest pipe market in the EU. The prices are also often a bit higher for these since they are special made.
In the north you will find quite a few. Haddocks in the Netherlands has a lot. There photos are terrible but they have a good stock.
Germany is one of the few places you can find Italian makes with 9mm. I guess they make them special for that market since its the biggest pipe market in the EU. The prices are also often a bit higher for these since they are special made.
I've never tried a stinger before. But I should look into some German shops for future purchases then. I just really hope all this tariff nonsense settles down here in the states. Repeatedly arbitrarily announced and rescinded so many times I can't even begin to keep track. Don't want to get too into politics so I'll stop there...
If you stay under 800 in value there shouldn’t be additional tax applied
Stingers suck. Just something to gurgle and clean.
Stingers suck. Just something to gurgle and clean.
Ruminations on the value of money and pipes
During the seventies in the Ozarks every mile along the roads there seemed to be a little dairy farm, and dairy cows need high quality hay to get through the winter, and old men would just die trying to haul hay alongside teenagers like I was.
I learned then the importance of looking like somebody an old man could trust. I also learned not to trust any old man (old man being over about 35) unless I surveyed their operation to know they wouldn’t cheat me.
I wanted about a thousand bales at 25 cents a bale deal, and if I got a call I guarantee you my crew would put up a thousand bales of hay in your barn perfectly, stacked, punched in, not too loose and not too tight, and if you had a wife to feed us fine, if not I fed my crew.
I tried to always pay my crew more. Usually a nickel a bale when the going rate was two or three cents. I hired a driver who only drove, for a penny a bale.
I fed my crew anything they wanted at a good cafe.
And at the end of the day my driver, a boy named Billy who couldn’t even lift a hay bale, had ten dollars and could buy himself a pipe.
It was illegal. We were all under age. We didn’t have any insurance. There were no taxes paid.
My wife and I know a young man who has a labor crew.
When I closed my office and retired I had a loft full of files that needed hauled down to a shredder truck.
He sent four of his best laborers and eight hours later and $200 cash each my problem was solved. Perfectly. Better than I could have done it.
I doubt any of his crew smoke a pipe.
But if they did, look what they can buy with one day’s labor.
Why estate pipes are worth what they are is because of old men buying baubles, they wanted when they were young men.
Mostly our pipes sell geezer to geezer, you know?
During the seventies in the Ozarks every mile along the roads there seemed to be a little dairy farm, and dairy cows need high quality hay to get through the winter, and old men would just die trying to haul hay alongside teenagers like I was.
I learned then the importance of looking like somebody an old man could trust. I also learned not to trust any old man (old man being over about 35) unless I surveyed their operation to know they wouldn’t cheat me.
I wanted about a thousand bales at 25 cents a bale deal, and if I got a call I guarantee you my crew would put up a thousand bales of hay in your barn perfectly, stacked, punched in, not too loose and not too tight, and if you had a wife to feed us fine, if not I fed my crew.
I tried to always pay my crew more. Usually a nickel a bale when the going rate was two or three cents. I hired a driver who only drove, for a penny a bale.
I fed my crew anything they wanted at a good cafe.
And at the end of the day my driver, a boy named Billy who couldn’t even lift a hay bale, had ten dollars and could buy himself a pipe.
It was illegal. We were all under age. We didn’t have any insurance. There were no taxes paid.
My wife and I know a young man who has a labor crew.
When I closed my office and retired I had a loft full of files that needed hauled down to a shredder truck.
He sent four of his best laborers and eight hours later and $200 cash each my problem was solved. Perfectly. Better than I could have done it.
I doubt any of his crew smoke a pipe.
But if they did, look what they can buy with one day’s labor.
Why estate pipes are worth what they are is because of old men buying baubles, they wanted when they were young men.
Mostly our pipes sell geezer to geezer, you know?
If I found a really good estate pipe in good condition at a great price I would be on it like a duck on a June bug.
For me everything has to do with economy. Economy makes the world go round. So I mainly buy estate smooth dunhills at 1/3 of the NIB price of a similar group, shape, surface type. If I don't like it for whatever reason I resell it with no loss. So I tried it and smoked it for free. But reselling a pipe bought new, any brand, usually means a big loss.
I have bought used cars, bicycles, used furniture and used clothes because I wanted some particular items which were way too pricey to buy new. I don't see a reason for not buying a used pipe.
I am used and abused from work and hard life. I suffer from severe cervical syndrome and sciatica. Worrying about a pipe is a luxury.
I have bought used cars, bicycles, used furniture and used clothes because I wanted some particular items which were way too pricey to buy new. I don't see a reason for not buying a used pipe.
I am used and abused from work and hard life. I suffer from severe cervical syndrome and sciatica. Worrying about a pipe is a luxury.
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alot of the estate market is indeed old men selling off old pipes. And to make that happen, you need to have an endless stream of threads on pipe forums talking about how pipes from certain pain years were 5-10 times better then what the same company makes now.
Hells, its also why you see people selling old dr grabow pipes on ebay and etsy, on forums telling us how the briar used in those pipes is better then the briar being used currently in most major pipe brands.
Hells, its also why you see people selling old dr grabow pipes on ebay and etsy, on forums telling us how the briar used in those pipes is better then the briar being used currently in most major pipe brands.
That's how I got so many of the Savinelli 904/9004s for less than $30.
I've never bought a used... sorry, "estate" pipe.This forum is the greatest method of deterrence.
People talking about drooling into their pipes, using oil from their nose, earwax, motor oil, and lemon furniture polish on their pipes, and "cleaning" them with various other household and garage chemicals.
People putting shit like sour cream, jelly, pancake syrup, rice, etc. into their bowls for who knows what reason.
People smoking cherry/grape soda flavored blends out of rare old pipes and leaving an aromatic poltergeist that necessitates intervention by a priest.
People offloading their subpar pipes that smoke like a wet fart, or ones they accidentally put through the laundry cycle.
Or I could just buy a new one.
People talking about drooling into their pipes, using oil from their nose, earwax, motor oil, and lemon furniture polish on their pipes, and "cleaning" them with various other household and garage chemicals.
People putting shit like sour cream, jelly, pancake syrup, rice, etc. into their bowls for who knows what reason.
People smoking cherry/grape soda flavored blends out of rare old pipes and leaving an aromatic poltergeist that necessitates intervention by a priest.
People offloading their subpar pipes that smoke like a wet fart, or ones they accidentally put through the laundry cycle.
Or I could just buy a new one.
If Greg Pease has estates in his collection who am I to look down on them?
I acquire both new and used pipes. Playing at restoring an old pipe with all the cleaning and polishing is fun. It's the side of pipe smoking that is one of the things that makes the activity a hobby. You usually end up with a nearly pristine, clean pipe to enjoy.
None of the used pipes I've acquired were anywhere as bad as the box of old pipes I inherited from my father. Talk about some nasty old pipes. But even they cleaned up very well. Now I am the one turning them back into a bunch of nasty old pipes.
None of the used pipes I've acquired were anywhere as bad as the box of old pipes I inherited from my father. Talk about some nasty old pipes. But even they cleaned up very well. Now I am the one turning them back into a bunch of nasty old pipes.
Or for more fun, those people selling current production pipes online on ebay for more then what I can pay at smoking pipes.
Yeah i just wanna run and buy that 150$ peterson or savinelli pipe that i can get for 90-100 on smoking pipes today, brand new.
I think the postman wanted to do some quality assurance and took one for the team, and risked his well being by smoking the pipe before letting it get to you.
Everyone should buy new pipes. All the time. Except me. I will buy all the old pipes I like.
Later today, I plan to eat dinner at a restaurant. I expect that 100s of people have had the fork I am going to use in their mouths. As a society, we don't hesitate to use such utensils which are cleaned with soap and hot water. But it is a matter of personal preference, and while I prefer new pipes, I have never had an issue buying a restored and cleaned estate pipe with the work done by an experience pipe restorer, which I again clean myself with a pipe cleaner soaked in alcohol on the button and run a few times through the stem. It is then likely just as sterile as the dinner plate I'm about to use this evening. At least I hope so.
Bacterias and viruses die in a few hours or days when exposed to air anyway without any need of sterilization.
The fear of used objects is only a mental think.
The fear of used objects is only a mental think.