When I Was In NYC.

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Funny, I just had that thought reading this thread. Today, I’m taking a break from this forum.

Thanks for letting me know, eh?

 

[BingBong]

Funny, I just had that thought reading this thread. Today, I’m taking a break from this forum.

You missed the Rouseco Buoy Gold thread?

 

[MattRVA]

I couldn’t even imagine being angry enough to shoot other people. I don’t have the answers but something needs to change.

 

[Sobrbiker]

That's a boy lost the critical difference between reality and video game shit. I can think of no other explanation.

The absence of being raised with respect/reverence for the lives of others.
Mass shootings are primarily suicides with the intent of having others share the pain.

I’m out, before I go any further and my beliefs get me in trouble.

 

[brian64]

Once upon a time---like back when I was in school---the cop-to-citizen ratio was higher, prosecutors and judges didn't fuck around, there was no manufactured shortage of jails and prisons, and states had mental hospitals of two kinds: non-violent mental illness, and institutions for the criminally insane.

Was it safer? Dramatically so. Hell, high school kids often carried rifles in their cars & trucks on school grounds, and (with permission) firearms were occasionally brought into the school for show-and-tell sessions and general instruction. No one was stressed in the slightest about it. It was business as usual.

WHY was behavior so much better? Kids were raised by parents who understood that BEHAVIOR was EVERYTHING, and proper behavior was the difference between having a good life, and one spent in misery behind bars.

They---the kids---looked around, realized that their parents were telling them the truth, and got with the program.

It's really that simple.

Absolutely. When I was in 8th grade my teacher held a gun safety course with the entire class during regular school hours...had several firearms in there...and this was a public school.

We all went shooting on a field trip as well...and not to a shooting range, but just out in the desert. The teacher brought all kinds of stuff to shoot at...melons, various targets, etc. A good and fun learning experience for all. Would never happen today.

Most kids I knew were quite familiar with firearms and it was no big deal (my dad had a couple of rifles and took us target shooting many times when I was young). The idea of young children being homicidal was just unheard of.

 

[Sobrbiker]

It is a real problem, no doubt. Teachers packing guns isn't the solution to me because of the pressure they are under just teaching I'd just feel better if they weren't packing. Between the people who say guns are bad and those who says guns don't kill its people who kill people you have a hopeless deadlock position.

They shouldn’t need forced to, but if not a prohibited possessor I’d like to see them have the option.

 

[Sig]

I recently read that the average IQ of high school graduates in the US is 74.
And in many cities, graduates read at a 6th grade level or lower.
Both of my parents were teachers in public schools. My dad taught 52 years my mom for 44 years.
They both taught at smaller schools in WNY. By the time they retired, the kids had changed more than the school. Respect was all but gone and the parents were as bad as the kids.
Yes, cops in schools, arm the teacher's, or both.
Making guns illegal will NOT stop this, it may even make it worse.
90% of mass shootings happen in gun free zones.
If a shooter believes there are several trained protectors in the school....they will choose the gun free mall.
This is NOT a gard thing to stop.
If you go to Washington DC and go to the White House, Capitol building....you will not see an over abundance of guards....until you pull a gun out. It's actually quite easy to protect a building full of people. Our government has been doing it for decades.

 

[georged]

I recently read that the average IQ of high school graduates in the US is 74.
And in many cities, graduates read at a 6th grade level or lower.
Both of my parents were teachers in public schools. My dad taught 52 years my mom for 44 years.
They both taught at smaller schools in WNY. By the time they retired, the kids had changed more than the school. Respect was all but gone and the parents were as bad as the kids.

Speaking of educational decline (and its politically motivated offshoot---lowered testing standards to make the situation look better than it actually is)...

All those wondrous Specialized Infrastructure Things that make the modern world modern---roads, bridges, hydroelectric dams, water purification plants, water distribution, power generation, power distribution, communication systems, airports, air traffic technology, waste treatment, sewage systems, and on and on and on... don't give the slightest shit about human emotions, parental pressure on school boards, graduating percentage according to socio-economic situation, free points just for showing up to class, or anything else.

And those syatems all depend upon each other, meaning failures spread in a fractal, domino-effect fashion. Hell, failure is not even linear... the farther it goes, the faster it goes.

And the specialized engineers who implement and maintain those specialized systems are disappearing one at a time, every minute of every day...

 

[Hillcrest]

I recently read that the average IQ of high school graduates in the US is 74.
And in many cities, graduates read at a 6th grade level or lower.

That's planned.

 

[Hillcrest]

Millions of kids on psychotropic drugs and playing high-tech, violent video games...it's one giant MK-Ultra experiment.

The CIA and NSA monitor those games and send subliminal messages to the players. That has been revealed by whistleblowers. Like flipping a switch ...

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

When I was in High School we would have our deer rifles locked in our vehicles in the school parking lot during deer season. We would go straight to the woods after school. Some had gun racks in their pickup trucks with their rifle hanging there in plain sight. No one thought a thing of it.

Different time and place.

Rural America during the late ‘70’s and early ‘80’s

 

[woodsroad]

That's a boy lost the critical difference between reality and video game shit. I can think of no other explanation.

Nobody talks about this. The socialization of kids with first-person video games about mass killing.

 

[bullet08]

We had guns in school. We had axes, kitchen knives. We knew who had it, where it was. No one rats. But we also had fully armed police officers patrolling the hallway. We had occasional shootings, but they were all targeted shootings, no mass killing. And they were taken down, or apprehended before they were anywhere near any door.

No crazies doing Rambo in the god damned cafeteria. Shooting into classroom. Hosing down other students.

Why don't they put cops in the school now?

I don't care what drove these kids to go on rampage. I don't care if they are sick in the head, or played too many video games. Give them something solid to stop them from acting out.

All these talk about gun control. Bullshit! Kids are dying now! Nobody's going to do anything about gun control. They are not stupid. It won't fly in US. So, they do lip service for few more votes and keep our kids to be killed for no reason.

 

[OlJawBone]

as if the fucking cops do anything to stop school shootings. do you not remember Uvalde, where dozens of police waited outside and prevented parents from trying to save their children?

 

[bullet08]

as if the fucking cops do anything to stop school shootings. do you not remember Uvalde, where dozens of police waited outside and prevented parents from trying to save their children?




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How many mass shootings, and how many times there were cops refusing to do their duty? Shit happened. Not much is being done now. It's faster if they are in school at all time.

 

[OlJawBone]

How many mass shootings, and how many times there were cops refusing to do their duty? Shit happened. Not much is being done now. It's faster if they are in school at all time.

the police are the most violent occupational demographic in the country. keep them out of schools.

 

[bullet08]

the police are the most violent occupational demographic in the country. keep them out of schools.

No. Few bad apples do not make the whole rotten. That's like saying all Chinese are laundromat owners, all Korean are dime store owners and Japanese are sushi restaurant owners. Painting with that wide brush has been proven wrong time and again. Try better.

 

[georged]

the police are the most violent occupational demographic in the country. keep them out of schools

That's like saying while your chance of dying from an auto crash is 45 times higher than an airplane crash, cars are safer because a higher percentage of the passengers aboard an airplane are killed when it crashes.

"Emotional Logic" strikes again...

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Uvalde was a disgrace...

I mean, a crowd of old ladies would have gone in to try to stop the shooting.

Not those boys in blue though... They waited in the hallway using hand sanitizer until the shooting stopped.

Stooges... They should all be locked up, at a minimum.

 

[OlJawBone]

No. Few bad apples do not make the whole rotten. That's like saying all Chinese are laundromat owners, all Korean are dime store owners and Japanese are sushi restaurant owners. Painting with that wide brush has been proven wrong time and again. Try better.

Police are not an ethnic demographic. They are a job that people choose to take on. And a large percentage of the people who choose to do so are violent. Your comparison is so logically flawed that you should try better.

Studies show that %40 percent of police households experience domestic violence.