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mso489

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I have only Stanwell's made since they moved production to Italy, so I can't compare, but I find the Italian-made versions very good, well crafted, precise in quality, and pleasantly open in draw. The Danish-made pipes have a certain status, but these are excellent to me. Maybe proletariat, being factory pipes at moderate prices, but the design and smoking characteristics pass muster. I'm one who has had consistently good experiences with Petersons, about eight of them, for which I would credit the retailers I've used, keeping an eye on the incoming products, and I suppose pure luck. Again, I've had excellent experiences with Savinelli, and their sub-brand Rossi, Johs pipes by Mogen Johansen, and with the rare and beautiful hand carved Jerry Perry pipes of Mountain Laurel, briar, and cocobolo. By in large, pipes are some of the more dependably good products I know. I've had a few disappointments, but not many.
 

burleyboy

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Jul 30, 2019
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Yes, Carlo Scotti was a complete idiot who couldn’t make a decent pipe. So was Franco Coppo in the first 20 years or so when he took over production.

I think the restricted draw is something, one can handle by smoking technique. But one of my Sea Rock pipes, which is supposedly from the 70ies has some weird kind of lacquer on it, which starts to throw bubbles, when getting hot, and I mean not extremely hot, but regular pipe-hot. To me it's a miracle how they could use this type of staining on a pipe.
 

Jwebb90

Lifer
Feb 17, 2020
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Peterson seems to be the one that comes up most often as declining in quality. However, I am not sure how much that has changed with its recent change in ownership. One of the most common complaints I have heard about Peterson is their drilling being off (not referring to system pipes here).
 
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olkofri

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Sep 9, 2017
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I'm not sure I wanna buy anything coming from Italy right now. ?

Will coronavirus kill smoking? Is it the end of pipes? Can you swab a pipe with 60% alcohol without damaging the finish? ?
 
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BlueMaxx

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I'm not sure I wanna buy anything coming from Italy right now. ?

Will coronavirus kill smoking? Is it the end of pipes? Can you swab a pipe with 60% alcohol without damaging the finish? ?


Funny you should mention that Faux News had an article on:
"Can your Amazon packages give you the Coronavirus?"

rotf


I can just see the lemmings donned with latex gloved hand and a N95 on baptizing their packages in Purell & alcohol before ripping into them...

Had to laugh, but nervously so, my son is a Postman....
 
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I think the restricted draw is something, one can handle by smoking technique. But one of my Sea Rock pipes, which is supposedly from the 70ies has some weird kind of lacquer on it, which starts to throw bubbles, when getting hot, and I mean not extremely hot, but regular pipe-hot. To me it's a miracle how they could use this type of staining on a pipe.
Did you buy the pipe in the 1970’s? Stains from that era are phenomenal. One of the highlights in the world of pipes at that time. Nobody did it better. In all likelihood, you have an estate piece Many of those have made too many trips to the buffing wheel and have been restrained. I see them all the time.

Until the advent of Alt smokers pipes in the 1990’s, I never heard of Castellos having a “restricted draw. ” Then certain West Coast loudmouths with lots of money started in on the issue, influenced by Danish pipe makers who had to have some way to justify their exorbitantly priced “studio” pipes. Of course, Alt Smokers Pipes was largely populated by refugee cigar smokers who spent large sums of money on cigars, so why not pipes?, even though they didn’t know how to pack them.

Don’t get me started?
 

hauntedmyst

Lifer
Feb 1, 2010
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Chicago
Who hasn't gone down the tubes? Jess Chonowitsch is making his pipes out of Torlon these days. I'm pretty sure Peterson has switched to an all Balsa model. Savinelli is still using hardwood, not briar mind you, but their airbrush graining is still first rate. Even Dunhill is slipping in ceramic liners into their briar bowls as a money saver.

It's not just the pipe makers. Cornell and Diehl uses mostly corn husks for Virginias these days and Cyprus is using Duraflame logs for Latakia since they can't afford hardwood. We don't know what Sutliff is using in their aromatics but lets be honest, we've never really know. I'm guessing vanilla, pork anal glands and aspartame. When it come to GH&Co, much like Sutliffe, we don't know but in this case we don't want to know - why ruin the happiness. After all, would you smoke any less of it if you found out it was seasoned with steamed and pressed kittens? I wouldn't.
 
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burleyboy

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Did you buy the pipe in the 1970’s? Stains from that era are phenomenal. One of the highlights in the world of pipes at that time. Nobody did it better. In all likelihood, you have an estate piece Many of those have made too many trips to the buffing wheel and have been restrained. I see them all the time.

Until the advent of Alt smokers pipes in the 1990’s, I never heard of Castellos having a “restricted draw. ” Then certain West Coast loudmouths with lots of money started in on the issue, influenced by Danish pipe makers who had to have some way to justify their exorbitantly priced “studio” pipes. Of course, Alt Smokers Pipes was largely populated by refugee cigar smokers who spent large sums of money on cigars, so why not pipes?, even though they didn’t know how to pack them.

Don’t get me started?

I'm fine about the draw. It's just been unusual, as I did only know newer Castellos before I got into older ones.

The said pipe was bought NOS last year. It's a brown colored Sea Rock... Probably it's not visible in the photo, but there are definitely some bubbles.

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BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
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perhaps a wax that was applied too thick?

have you tried hitting it with a stiff clean toothbrush when it's warm from smoking? and I literally mean hit it.. like smack it with the bristles into the grooves.
 

burleyboy

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Jul 30, 2019
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perhaps a wax that was applied too thick?

have you tried hitting it with a stiff clean toothbrush when it's warm from smoking? and I literally mean hit it.. like smack it with the bristles into the grooves.

That's a good suspicion. Though I have already tried to brush or wipe that off - no success there. I just shot a pic through a magnifying glass. Not very good, but I guess, it shows what I'm talking about:

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BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
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looks like wax or some other finish that has almost broken down over time.
I would try warming it and the toothbrush trick. after that it should not be tacky anymore.
 
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burleyboy

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looks like wax or some other finish that has almost broken down over time.
I would try warming it and the toothbrush trick. after that it should not be tacky anymore.

Thanks! I'll try that one on occasion! And of course I'll let you know if it worked out.
 
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